Universalism presupposes that God will give second chances beyond the grave. I'd like to think God is fair in His judgement and will give consideration to those who are ignorant of His will or ignorant of Him for that matter. After all, life is relatively short as it is and not everyone even has a chance for a full life (assuming a 70 year average). One would think that with eternity at stake, there would be ample opportunity to "purchase their ticket and get into the stadium" as it were. The problem I have is that it is not so clear cut for people where to go to purchase that ticket. Or that there is any ticket to purchase. Or maybe they don't even know there is a game on. Or maybe they show up at the wrong stadium. Even among the different Christian denominations there are divers ways of getting there. And quite frankly us believers will bicker at one another whether our particular sect is exclusive to the other sects or at least believe that the other sects have it so detrimentally wrong that their chances of getting in are compromised by their doctines. For those who are in error, at least honestly so, believers in God (or Something) of whatever religion or sect, I'd like to think that God will better their education and then allow them to decide who they rather serve before dumping them off into the eternal abyss. Another thing is that many people go out hating God because of their circumstances. Maybe they were victims of abuse, or lost a loved one, or some other tragedy that has held them back from knowing who God is, perhaps blamming God for their misfortune. It's hard to blame people in these circumstances if one has not gone through the same. Many of these people have never known love, no one has shown them. I do not condone this Cho fellow that shortened the lives of so many at Virginia Tech, but he was obviously lonely and depressed, and not in the right mind. I have no idea what kind of love was offered in his home growing, but I suspect it wasn't much, if at all. There had to be some deep underlying root cause in the center of his soul that made him the way he was. It may have all been a physical mental problem, I dunno. Granted, he didn't seem to try to reach out to people who reached out to him, being so closed off and isolated toward people, but I wonder if somehow he felt he couldn't trust people enough to open himself up. He definitely had a persecution problem, as evident in the videos he took of himself. The point is that he was in a desperate and depressed state of mind that over the years boiled to the point that in his anger and rage drove him to this kind of action. It would have been better if he just took his own life instated of all the ones he took with him. But it is interesting to hear that some families of the victims have forgiven him anyway. I would love to believe in universalism. Problem is, is that there are those so bent against God that they probably won't be comfortable in worshipping God for eternity anyway. I have a feeling that even when everthing is crystal clear there will be those who will not choose to love God. Sorry for rambling on, just needed to get some things out.