Reminds me of one of the typically inscrutable, yet simple replies that the late founder of the San Francisco Zen Center, Shunryu Suzuki, would give questioners on topics related to Zen teachings: "Not necessarily so." Good to see you back/around Paladin. EarlPaladin said:You know, if regarded as a koan, the above makes perfect sense.
If viewed from the dreaded "western" philosophic, linear dynamic we can make erudite argument indefinitely.
If I were a zen disciple of old, and asked my master this question, I would be struck repeatedly with his staff ( I hate when that happens).
So when asked I think the answer would be a resounding "yes" or an inscrutable "no" depending on who asked, and when. Nicht Wahr?