Possible. But there is one more possibility. 'Birth Day of Sol Invictus' is a 6000 year old tradition, the date of which has moved by three months in that period. Actually it is the celebration of Spring Equinox. Equinoxes move one year in 25,000 years and hence, 3 months in 6,000 years. Spring Equinox was the beginning of the year for many Aryan people. Indian Aryans changed the beginning of the year repeatedly. It is recorded in the Vedas. They corrected the calendar, where as the Greeks and Romans never did that (we are already overdue for another correction. Delays always happen and that too is recorded. The orthodox are reluctant to change). Why would anyone have the 'Birthday of Sol Invictus' in the darkest portion of the year?"That is an interesting twist to the story. Is it possible Christmas was placed on December 25th, because that was the Solstice at that time?"
What I've always heard was it was to separate those pagans, can't have some bacchanalian festival lasting for days at such a somber time. So they had to choose, and be identified and ostracized, of course today, eat, drink, be merry, gluttony and materialism have won back out.
Now the Greeks have a different day yes? But still far from Jesus's supposed real birthdate.
I actually could care less what was of Pagan origin and what wasn't.
Bad wording the above, I do have an interest in Pagan traditions and have no issues respecting their beliefs.
But in regards to Christmas, Easter, or any day of the year I think it is the rememberance, not of the event, but that we have another chance to realize the Christ within. From Paul, I die daily, and put the mind in Christ in you. Reminding us that we grow, we need to shed the old skin and try to be better people on a regular basis. Whatever it takes to do that, whatever your method is, it is worthwhile.
One freaks because of wreaths or trees or bunnies or eggs, so be it, don't have em, don't participate. Others enjoy the fun around it, if it helps, awesome, if not let it go.
At church we have the kids and adults write letters to G!d at Christmas time. Like our letters to Santa requesting what we want as gifts and how good we been, letters to G!d are to indicate how good we want to be and how we'd like to use the gifts G!d has already provided, Love, Wisdom, Renunciation, Faith, Order, etc. Then the church sends the letter back to us in July, a reminder of our intentions, giving us the rest of the year to catch up.
Whatever it takes to learn to love your nieghbor is alright with me.
Yes. One day you will see all this baggage is getting you nowhere.bitter?
Just a mark of my respect, that's all. Sorry if that is something else that offends you?if capitalizting it makes it divine?
About Christmas?Ex Catholics are bitter when they find out the truth..that the catechism they've been fed has no basis in fact.
You were an observer once, then a collector, now you are a conduit. I bet it's uncanny how many such stories you hear, isn't it?They are bitter and blame... I observe.
So you pass on your complaints, your blame, your bitterness.I do my best to teach those around me that our Christmas rituals are fulll of so called pagan symbolism, that his birthday isn't even close to Christmas...
Well I believe this was one of the views that determined the date for Christianity. It's not the one I would put first, no ... but that's not the point.Come now Thomas. Do you personally believe this?