I did not get the reason why?

islamis4u

islamis4u

Vision To Spread Islam
Messages
227
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
Islamabad, Pakistan
I did not get th reason why people call Palestine people who are fighting fro their freedom as militants, like hamas militants. They are fighting for their freedom and nothing more okay.....
 
islamis4u said:
I did not get th reason why people call Palestine people who are fighting fro their freedom as militants, like hamas militants. They are fighting for their freedom and nothing more okay.....
Click to expand...

Hi islamis4u,
Question: who are the hamas militants fighting for their freedom against?
Joe
 
Most recently they are fighting against the Egyptians; before that, against other Palestinians; but they do still remember to take random shots at Israel.
 
islamis4u said:
Israelis are on their Land.
Click to expand...

Hi islamis4u,
Do you know what the foundation to the claim that this piece of land is theirs? This part of our world has been seized by many different groups down through the ages.
Joe
 
islamis4u said:
Before Israelis came who were their tell me Muslims na?
Click to expand...

Hi islamis4u,
The next question is: who was there before the Muslims?
The way of the world seems to like violence. This is "our land" as long as we can defend it. It's been that way through the ages. Is there any one nation that has a right to claim any one piece of the globe, really?
Joe
 
That was what i was saying but the thing is what their people want is the right thing okay their were most and are most Muslims so why are they occupying their place, So why should they attack on others country that is the thing.

Lastly Muslims lived their and Muslim welcomed Jews to live their when Christian drove Jews out okay?

For example you welcome me in your house then i start staying out their and after i have got some hold i will say claim that this is my house then what will you say? You will say im bad and things like that.

Lastly for one part some one is patriot for other he or she is a militant.
 
More like, I bought a house in your neighborhood and you decided to burn me out. So we have a big fight, and you lost and were chased away. Whose fault is that?
 
Joedjr said:
Hi islamis4u,
The next question is: who was there before the Muslims?
The way of the world seems to like violence. This is "our land" as long as we can defend it. It's been that way through the ages. Is there any one nation that has a right to claim any one piece of the globe, really?
Joe
Click to expand...

I don't think its a matter of proof but rather dignity.
 
That hardly justifies the apartheid regime that people call the only democracy in the Middle East. By the way, Palestine belongs to the Palestinians regardless of their religion, the fact that most of them are Muslim is irrelevant to their struggle against Israel because Israel is an occupying and oppressive entity. The Palestinians are native to that land and have built their homes upon that land for centuries and now they are being forced off of it systematically. Again asking if one nation has any right to claim one piece of the globe does not justify the occupation and oppression that is going on in the region. The only difference between the Palestinians and the Aborigines, Native Americans, and Blacks of South Africa is that the Palestinians have not renounced their right to fight back. The point is Palestine belongs to the locals, regardless of their religion, because Palestinians of the Abrahamic faiths have been living there for centuries.
 
bob x said:
More like, I bought a house in your neighborhood and you decided to burn me out. So we have a big fight, and you lost and were chased away. Whose fault is that?
Click to expand...
First thing its not about neighborhood when Christian drove Jews out Muslims welcomed them to live their and when they got little much power they taken on all the Palestine, you are taking something else if you give example give according to the topic okay!!!!
You came into their house you do not have neighborhood okay and Muslims were not saying anything okay please correct your example.

About what is the need of the people their that is the thing?
Now look Pakistan got power i drove you of the area where you are and say i was strong and i did that? you people where ever you live but you will be under us? you then fight for your so-called freedom then i say that you are militant what will you say? last what is the need of the people their? that should be taken into account? Right what democraticism is that America always say so much about that their country is democratic country and have so much budget for Israeli forces to oppress the Muslims? We can not rule anyone with an army the ruler is the one who is mostly loved in that area...... okay if you again say about power then very very sorry to say then Israeli people or their is nothing like a word for humanity? You kill so many people everyday so many people homeless, so many children shelter less, parent less this is what your religion teaches you give me any example where any Muslim state is doing that and interfering in other state matters? We have humanity in our religion and in our nerves.....

I will say that the religion is not to blame but the people who practice is to blamed.
 
Joedjr said:
Hi,
Another Wiki link: Palestinian people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Joe
Click to expand...

I will do not reply to this post because it is foolish a wikipedia not controlled by a Muslim secondly it was not present in the time when Muslims ruled Jeruslism, laslty its according to a non-Muslims,

If you have any point to have A Dialogue then tell me okay this is not the way of replying as told by the admins and mods here what is the difference between copying and pasting the link then? i only copied two posts and so much fuss was made on that what about this?
 
islamis4u said:
I will do not reply to this post because it is foolish a wikipedia not controlled by a Muslim secondly it was not present in the time when Muslims ruled Jeruslism, laslty its according to a non-Muslims,

If you have any point to have A Dialogue then tell me okay this is not the way of replying as told by the admins and mods here what is the difference between copying and pasting the link then? i only copied two posts and so much fuss was made on that what about this?
Click to expand...
Namaste Islamis4u

If you will not have dialogue with those that are not Muslim or not accept or discuss references that are from a non muslim site, you may wish not to deviate from the board. Out here in politics and society when one asks a question one will expect answers from all sources.

I hear the plight of the Palestinian. However as was discussed it is the same plight of every nation, group, people that have lost land. I also feel for the native american, those that lost land to the English, French, Spanish, Germans, Portuguese, Russians, that same land which eventually became the US.

As for Palestenians and history, when it comes to Hamas, have you any idea how many of them are descendants of those that were displaced? It seems when I look at statistics of how many folks lived there, how many stayed in Israel, how many were sent to camps, and how many were killed in battles and how many are there today...those who call themselves Palestenians are largely not descendents of those who occupied that land before, but folks who came from all over to join the fight. Am I incorrect in this regard?
 
islamis4u said:
I will do not reply to this post because it is foolish a wikipedia not controlled by a Muslim secondly it was not present in the time when Muslims ruled Jeruslism, laslty its according to a non-Muslims,

If you have any point to have A Dialogue then tell me okay this is not the way of replying as told by the admins and mods here what is the difference between copying and pasting the link then? i only copied two posts and so much fuss was made on that what about this?
Click to expand...

I'm not sure I'm thinking of the same posts you are, and I'm not a member of the staff here. I provided the link for one of your posts where you neglected to attribute the material. It's very easy to google a block of text. There are copyright issues involved which may expose the owner of this site to legal problems. I don't know what the standards of fair use are in the UK where this site originates, but here in America a rule of thumb is that you don't copy and past more than about ten sentences, and you must always attribute other people's work. If you don't attribute you're presenting someone else's intellectual property as your own, which is not only dishonest but amounts to theft. What we don't want is to have the conversation driven by cut an paste material, which requires almost no intellectual effort on the part of the poster. We want to hear what YOU think, in your own words.

Chris
 
China Cat Sunflower said:
I'm not sure I'm thinking of the same posts you are, and I'm not a member of the staff here. I provided the link for one of your posts where you neglected to attribute the material. It's very easy to google a block of text. There are copyright issues involved which may expose the owner of this site to legal problems. I don't know what the standards of fair use are in the UK where this site originates, but here in America a rule of thumb is that you don't copy and past more than about ten sentences, and you must always attribute other people's work. If you don't attribute you're presenting someone else's intellectual property as your own, which is not only dishonest but amounts to theft. What we don't want is to have the conversation driven by cut an paste material, which requires almost no intellectual effort on the part of the poster. We want to hear what YOU think, in your own words.

Chris
Click to expand...

i do not know where are you saying this i have again again told everybody that im now copying things? okay please i will request the admin to delete my that post i have copied before knowing it that it is not allowed so that this blame can be removed from me please every now and then one person comes to me and say i have copied please do remove that. Everyone things i reply so long answers so i have copied? these are my own words?

one reason i find that everyone thinks that i copy is because i reply almost my every post, and in this whole period, one thing i may tell you when i sit on net i sit for 14hours i just do not sign off and i reply from scriptures about that posts you are saying me about i hav already said delete that post and if you delete do tell me!!!
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top