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whats wrong with eating pigs? I know Ive probably asked this question before and I wont lecture you guys on the benefits of being an omnivour.

I suppose it would depend in which forum you ask that question. In a faith that holds vegetarianism sacrosanct the question would at best be moot, at worst quite offensive.

Ask the question in the lounge, and the answer might be something like "well too many folks use the wrong barbeque sauce"
 

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I'm with 17th - what are we supposed to eat then? God gave mankind control over the animals; there exists a natural hierarchy in this world when it comes to survival. Plus, animals eat each other all the time - even some plants eat animals! It's called common sense.

Animals don't factory farm, feed meat to herbivorous animals, or (generally) torture their food. Feel free to talk about 'natural hierarchies' next time you personally kill an animal to feed yourself because you need to, not because you enjoy hamburger.
 

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Namaste Q2008,

Not many folks eat meat via hunting...no worries there, most hire assassins and look down there collective noses at hunters.

But feeding meet to herbivores?? Who does that (oh prions to cows...good point)....I do chuckle at the vegans that force their carnivore cats and dogs to eat veggies!
 

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Not many folks eat meat via hunting...no worries there, most hire assassins and look down there collective noses at hunters.

Nothing amuses me more than those who scorn hunting, dog-eating, foie-gras, and ignore what goes into the meat products they themselves consume daily.

But feeding meet to herbivores?? Who does that (oh prions to cows...good point)....I do chuckle at the vegans that force their carnivore cats and dogs to eat veggies!

The bulk of 'pet food' that is sold is vegetable matter anyway. Certainly you shouldn't care for a carnivore if you're not willing to provide it with meat.
 

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Nothing amuses me more than those who scorn hunting, dog-eating, foie-gras, and ignore what goes into the meat products they themselves consume daily.



The bulk of 'pet food' that is sold is vegetable matter anyway. Certainly you shouldn't care for a carnivore if you're not willing to provide it with meat.

I am concerned about what factory and even field animals are fed to pump up their protein content and most consumers are still ignorant or choose to be else the shock factor would cause too much anxiety.

Even if all the human carnivores reduced their meat eating by 50% for health reasons alone ie up their fruit/vegetable intake, that would help a lot as l do believe much of the serious health problems in the west are due to too much animal products, particularly those slaughtered wholesalingly frightened...toxic:eek:
 

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I do chuckle at the vegans that force their carnivore cats and dogs to eat veggies!

Do you mean exclusively vegetarian diets? I think this might be OK for dogs as they are omnivores (not sure though). But this is a definite no-no for cats as they are carnivores and need it in their diet. A vegetarian diet for a cat would be injurious to their health.

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yes I suppose chuckle is the wrong word... I chuckle at the vegans, but do feel sorry for the animals...you are correct there aren't any Jane cats....
 

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If people can be reincarnated as animals why not plants? What if the carrots in your stew are your double dead grandmother! :eek: What then, people, what then!

Chuckle, not trying to be offensive, just puttin it out there, yano...

I've killed my own foodz before. Once wit a fishie, and once wit a chicken. Well, a bunch of chickenz... I'd rather hunt and kill my own food than buy it from the store, that way I know how it died, and I would appreciate it's sacrifice all the more. And hey, if a carnivore wants to eat me, I say bring it on! Let the best come out the victor! I'll enjoy my meat, and try to buy free range where possible since I generally = fail at hunting :(. If I had to hunt my own food I'd prolly starve. Or be reduced to a diet of fishies and wormies. Maybe crickets if I getz lucky. Lol, I'm a micro game hunter! Fear me! :p *pulls out mini cricket huntin gun*

"Be veeewy qwiet. I'm hunting cwicketz..." :D

Prey animals were meant to be prey... and they's yummy. Me and my kitty agree.

Meao!
 

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And hey, if a carnivore wants to eat me, I say bring it on!
:D chuckles!!
Reminds me of a bit early on in the book "The Life of Pi" where Pi's father, a zoo owner in Pondicherry takes his children to show what a tiger can do to a living goat. I would still say its as good a way to go as any...;)
 

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ooo, that reminds me of the goat in Jurassic Park. I remember seeing that in theater when I was younger, and saying that it was the best day ever, lol. Indicative of the future I suppose. :p

That movie totally rocked!

Cricketz 4 ebery1!
 

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We can eat anything i must say it may be vegetarian or non-vegetarian we should not restrict other then pig and other things which are not allowed like carnivore animals.

what about eating humans, your comments seems like justifying cannibalism :rolleyes:
if not pls let me know the reason.
 

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what about eating humans, your comments seems like justifying cannibalism :rolleyes:
if not pls let me know the reason.

well, obviously not carnivorous humans! and eating a vegetarian eating human would also be make you a carnivore of a 'possible' carnivore; would a goat or cow if absolutely starving eat a dead animal? [no, not processed/derivative meat products, we could be eating humans masquerading as other animal meat and be totally ignorant of it]. Pigs probably have been observed doing this hence the taboo?
 

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We are not meant to eat meat or other animal products. Set your spiritual beliefs aside for a moment and look at the scientific research and the facts of human physiology. Eating meat and animal products is harmful to the human body.

Regardless of your belief system or faith, I think you can agree that this human exerience is a blessing, an opportunity, and therefore should you not treat your body as a temple? Should you not be humble, appreciative and respectful to the body which carries you through life?
Eating meat is none of the above, it is harmful and destructive to your being.
 

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The canines protrude out from the other teeth, making them useful as weapons to puncture through living tissue. I have also been told that it is very difficult to get certain vitamins without eating meat and that this is based upon scientific research as well. Does this mean I go out biting people? No, I don't do that. People taste funny.
 

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The canines protrude out from the other teeth, making them useful as weapons to puncture through living tissue. I have also been told that it is very difficult to get certain vitamins without eating meat and that this is based upon scientific research as well. Does this mean I go out biting people? No, I don't do that. People taste funny.


Herbivore, Carnivore and Human Comparison:

Stomach Acidity
Herb and Human - pH 4-5
Carnivore - Less than 1
Humans are lacking Uricase, an enzyme which rids the body of Uric Acid. Carnivores do have the enzyme Uricase. Uric Acid is a by-product of protein metabolism. High levels of meat and animal products result in high levels of Uric Acid. This is fine for a carnivore, this is dangerous for humans

All Herbivore and Human Jaw move well side to side and front to back, no shear movement. All Carnivores lack this movement. This is because of the Jaw Joint location in herbivores and humans, it is above the molars, in carnivores it is on the same plane as the molar teeth. This makes our jaws perfect for grinding fibrous grains, greens, grasses etc...

Herbivores and Humans chew excesively and contain enzymes in their saliva which start to pre-digest carbohydrates in the mouth. Carnivores swallow food whole and do not possess enzymes in the mouth.

Herbivores and Humans have a small intestine which is 10-12 times longer than body length. Carnivores small intenstine is 3-6 times longer than their body. Humans and Herbivores colons are long and sacculated (think ribbed), carnivores are simple short and smooth.
Our digestive systems are not meant to handle meat.

Our lives, and guess what, herbivores livers, cannot detoxify vitamin A. Carnivores... CAN!

Humans suck water, herbivores suck water (our jaws permit), no carnivore sucks water, they lap it up.

Humans and Herbivores have flattened nail beds, Carnivores have sharp claws.



The list goes on and on and on. This is true for all carnivore and herbivore animals.
 

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That comparison doesn't take omnivores into account.
 

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That comparison doesn't take omnivores into account.

They have the same characteristics as carnivores.
The most important being in the digestive system:

Ph less than 1
Length of small intenstine is 4-6X body length
Colon is simple short and smooth


The fact of the matter is, regardless of your opinion or religious/spiritual belief, consuming animal proteins/products is not healthy or beneficial to human beings. It just isn't, no ifs and or buts, and it was never meant to be. We are primates.
 
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