Coming full circle

[Paladin]

"I found out a long time ago, what a woman can do to your soul. But she can't take you anywhere, you don't already know how to go"

- The Eagles " Take it Easy"

 

[Muslimwoman]

Nicely quoted Paladin.

 

[seattlegal]

See it is true, women are the root of all evil and lead men into sin

OK, I can't resist...

"I found out a long time ago, what a woman can do to your soul. But she can't take you anywhere, you don't already know how to go"

- The Eagles " Take it Easy"

It was "Peaceful, Easy Feeling." {How's that for getting 'back to idiocy?' }
**ducks around corner, and peeks back around for signs of flying tomatoes**

 

[Paladin]

OK, I can't resist...


It was "Peaceful, Easy Feeling." {How's that for getting 'back to idiocy?' }
**ducks around corner, and peeks back around for signs of flying tomatoes**

Totally in character and most appropriate. (see I knew smoking too much back in the seventies was gonna have some effect, just couldnt remember what it was)

 

[earl]

Some of you folks are definitely of my musical generation. Loved the Eagles-but instead of going totally mellow, you've inspired me to play now the old Santana live album, "Persuasion." Nobody could pick a guitar like Santana-well maybe Hendrix. Not quite up to the last track of the CD-"Evil Ways" yet, but I dedicate it to you gals who've just posted on this thread. earl

 

[seattlegal]

Some of you folks are definitely of my musical generation. Loved the Eagles-but instead of going totally mellow, you've inspired me to play now the old Santana live album, "Persuasion." Nobody could pick a guitar like Santana-well maybe Hendrix. Not quite up to the last track of the CD-"Evil Ways" yet, but I dedicate it to you gals who've just posted on this thread. earl

 

[Muslimwoman]

Some of you folks are definitely of my musical generation.

The words you are looking for Earl are "some of you folks are as old as me".

It's true but we are not over the hill yet - I hope.

 

[seattlegal]

Actually, so much of the music from the 80's sucked that I spent that time listening to my parents' albums from the 50's, 60's and 70's. There were a few 80's groups that were good, (like Dire Straits and Fleetwood Mac) but they were quite scarce.

 

[Muslimwoman]

Actually, so much of the music from the 80's sucked that I spent that time listening to my parents' albums from the 50's, 60's and 70's.

Oh me too, Buddy Holly, the Everly Brothers, etc, loved them. Although I never took to the Beatles.

 

[wil]

So I guess my question is, has anyone here become an idiot as well, or is it just me?

Maybe all the religion and philosophy is our way of insulating ourselves from reality, though looking at it all I still love it all; the ritual, the tradition even the rigid thinking it produces serves a purpose for some.

I would like to explicitly thank the previous posters (and others) for their contributions in providing signposts to my current state of flowering ignorance. .. now that you’ve all helped to get me to this point of relative clear and calm ignorance? Do I post again?

Thanks for the thread, Paladin, and all the responses, too. I feel a lot less lonely now!...Not knowing some things I used to think I knew has not taken one bit of faith away. It has only enhanced it, along with helping me to be able to “hear” what people with various ideas are actually saying.

Incredible stuff, and I don't buy it for a minute. You mean you have all lost that blind faith that allows you to be absolutely positive about things you don't know?

Every one of you has reached a state where you are no longer ready to knock on doors and tell everyone you know the truth and even if they are on the same path as you that their interpretation needs some adjustment and you are there to help??

I'm completely fearful of this state of affairs. And I love you guys!

 

[flowperson]

Some of you folks are definitely of my musical generation. Loved the Eagles-but instead of going totally mellow, you've inspired me to play now the old Santana live album, "Persuasion." Nobody could pick a guitar like Santana-well maybe Hendrix. Not quite up to the last track of the CD-"Evil Ways" yet, but I dedicate it to you gals who've just posted on this thread. earl

Just two names Earl...Ry Cooder, and Leo Kottke. I rest my case on quality guitar work.

flow....

 

[Saltmeister]

Incredible stuff, and I don't buy it for a minute. You mean you have all lost that blind faith that allows you to be absolutely positive about things you don't know?

Every one of you has reached a state where you are no longer ready to knock on doors and tell everyone you know the truth and even if they are on the same path as you that their interpretation needs some adjustment and you are there to help??

I'm completely fearful of this state of affairs. And I love you guys!

Disillusionment is the new religion around here. Nobody wants to be stuck eating the same old hamburger. You don't want to be around people who are the same as you. We all want to be different. Rebels with a cause. It's the religion of no religion. We had questions and wanted answers. We heard there were answers in the neighbourhood. If one doesn't have the answers, then what's the point of life? What's the point of living? So of course we found something to believe in.

But then, we found ourselves surrounded by people who believed they had the answers, all of them asserting they had the answers, but each of them having different answers. We got sick of thinking we had the answers. The answer then, was that there was no answer!!! We must all be right or we must all be wrong. But maybe us all being right doesn't mean it's all contradictory. We all have our metaphors and paradigms. These metaphors and paradigms are just ways of explaining universal truths, not the truths themselves (signposts).

But we got sick of religion anyway because everyone was setting up their own signpost. In a world where everyone can raise up their own signpost, banner, flag or bumper sticker, it's just your word against their's.

One or two weeks ago, I actually stopped posting. I decided that I needed a break from holding up my banners, flags and signposts. It's a very time-consuming and expensive job and I needed to cut back on my budget and focus on less time-consuming activities. Besides, since you all have your own signpost, what do you need me for?

Well . . . actually, I diverted my attention on a different kind of ideology, and started looking into what was happening between the U. S., Russia and China (PRC). I started looking for forums of a different kind -- forums on world politics. Ideology is addictive, and if my mind isn't filled with one ideology it's filled with another. The U.S. economy, as you probably know, isn't doing very well. Russia's economy has recovered and is getting stronger. The PRC's economy is booming. Russia and China and starting to have more influence in Asia, Africa and South America. It appears that the U.S. is being sidelined . . . and then there's the Shanghai Co-operation Organisation . . . and with the world reaching peak oil, there's a scramble between the three countries to get as much of the remaining oil as they can from the four corners of the earth.

Peak oil . . . the scramble for oil . . . North Korea, Iran and the Taiwan question. Surveys of people living in the U.S., Russia and China indicated that a significant portion of their populations believe that war was possible in 10-15 years. The New Cold War. It got me thinking . . . when I buy a car, I should buy a hybrid or an all-electric car. Think long-term.

I couldn't help the fact that it was still ideology, but just a different kind. I'm an ideology freak. Just like the U.S., Russia and China needing oil, I need ideology -- an oil of a different kind that drives people crazy. I had reached "peak oil" with religion and needed oil from another oil well -- so I started thinking more about world politics and the three superpowers' scramble for oil. It's the new oil for the engine of my mind. Without it, my mind wouldn't go.

Anyway, if any of you need a break from religion, or are disillusioned with religion, we could always spice up our lives with a talk on superpower politics. Let's become war hawks!!! . . . or maybe just stop posting altogether.

 

[wil]

Seems the story on the Mother Theresa letters broke about the same time as this thread....hmmmm.....

 

[Ciel]

Seems the story on the Mother Theresa letters broke about the same time as this thread....hmmmm.....

And the lunar eclipse............ as the moon draws back the rising tides..........
we live at the cusp of change and greater clarity on the horizon.

. c -

 

[JosephM]

[QUOTE =Saltmeister]
One or two weeks ago, I actually stopped posting. I decided that I needed a break from holding up my banners, flags and signposts. It's a very time-consuming and expensive job and I needed to cut back on my budget and focus on less time-consuming activities. Besides, since you all have your own signpost, what do you need me for?

[/quote]

Now thats a foolish question. To read our banners, flags and signposts of course. Lets not get selfish saltmeister!

 

[Muslimwoman]

One or two weeks ago, I actually stopped posting. I decided that I needed a break from holding up my banners, flags and signposts. It's a very time-consuming and expensive job and I needed to cut back on my budget and focus on less time-consuming activities. Besides, since you all have your own signpost, what do you need me for?

The occasional nugget of sanity for a start. Did you find any good political forums? Can you PM me some links, I suppose it is time I started to understand the upcoming isues for the Middle East before we get bombed off the face of the earth.

I trust you shall be popping in to rescue us from ourselves occasionally? My arms get tired holding up my banners.

 

[China Cat Sunflower]

"I wanna be a happy idiot and struggle for the legal tender..."

"...Are you there? Say a prayer for the pretender. Who started out so young and strong only to surrender." Jackson Brown

I feel like a mineralist.

Chris

 

[China Cat Sunflower]

Actually, I know a lot of things. The smartest, or I should say the most useful things I know can most easily be expressed as proverbs, or wise sayings. Maybe not knowing jack is just a way of saying I've discovered that there are no easy answers. You can't just buy it off the rack. And as Salty was saying, you know...I'm so much more interested in real history and politics- trying to understand where we're at and how we got here, than the more experimental-ideological stuff of my wanna-be a rebel past. Plus I'm a property owner, and that right there will make you think differently. I got to a place in my spirituality quest where I could go no further on general knowledge. You get to these points in life where you realize that you can only commit to so many things, and if I wanted to go further I was going to have to make a huge study commitment... and decide on maybe three things to absolutely obsess over. I can't do that. Like I said I'm a property holder. I've got a lot of interest and time tied up in my family life thing.

So it isn't really about not knowing and just giving up. It's priorities.

Chris

 

[Paladin]

It seems that I have heard of a tradition in some countries where a househoulder, when his children are older and on their own becomes a sage and spends his time seeking his own truth. Untill then, the grass needs mowing and there are many things that need a persons attention.
So whats the harm of not knowing about the universe or ultimate truth? I think the universe will do just fine if we attend to our chores Chris

 

[China Cat Sunflower]

oops!