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Beautiful well founded description Seattlegal,
Good cooks sure have a way with words.
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Beautiful well founded description Seattlegal,
Good cooks sure have a way with words.
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At what point does adapting the orginal teachings to fit in with personal preferences become a largely solipsistic, self-serving attempt to justify the corruption of true doctrine -- an effort that reflects a desire for quick and easy solutions that would be incompatible with real progress on The Path?
Here's a nice recipe for Irish Soda Bread:
http://www.elise.com/recipes/archives/004338irish_soda_bread.php
The recipe calls for half a teaspoon of baking soda. What should I substitute?
seattlegal
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I'd still appreciate info for substitution guidelines.
seattlegal
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This might be a good place to find some inspiration for where to begin your research.I'd still appreciate info for substitution guidelines.
Blackwell Synergy - J Food Science, Volume 44 Issue 3 Page 765-769, May 1979 (Article Abstract)
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This might be a good place to find some inspiration for where to begin your research.
Blackwell Synergy - J Food Science, Volume 44 Issue 3 Page 765-769, May 1979 (Article Abstract)
You made it sound like you had experience in this area. I wanted to benefit from your experience.
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Because knowledge evolves.
Seems quite important to recognize that each ‘buddha’ passes on material knowledge for the next generation.
To read shares that Alzheimer’s disease destroys the physical link to memories. Likewise death of the body removes the memories of a person. Meaning the ‘soul’ of an individual is not what a person ‘thinks’ while alive because a person with Alzheimer’s has a deteriorating capacity to remember, proving the idea of a spirit continuing after physical death does not exist.
What a person imposes to existence by choice is that living spirit. A choice to take a thought and impose a ‘life’ to existence is that spirit each can leave. Good one’s live a long time, bad one’s fade to extinction. Each are of energy (light) a person conveys to existence by choice.
So when a Buddha contributes knowledge to existence when another contributor observes that knowledge the next evolution continues. Hence the pinnacle of evolution is for mass to know how ‘it’ exists. Now imagine all of the children on this globe knowing how and what makes them alive and how to live a long time, all based on each individual choice.
So why have many generation’s had a different buddha?
As time progresses, the total (God) conveyed in time. All mass, all energy, all time; One: the total. Everything exists, within God.
The last Buddha is a nut that made a covenant to share the truth once and for all.
And it is our time folks, with the internet and the capability to do the real homework and contribute uninterrupted by any bias but to simply understand and share.
And in one full swoop….. to Understand; light or electromagnetism upon mass, that a pure set of rules does, in fact, share the universal truth of existence. No magic, no omnipotence, just the TRUTH founded in pure natural (God) law and of no opinion, just a revealing.
So why a messiah dude or kalki or Quetzalcoatl or even the return of jc, as the story goes, which could be the same guy born of june 1966… or how ever you wish to suggest a religious icon of a possible ‘Last Buddha’……
Is only a man, just like anyone else but with a personal mission to just give the next generation a chance. To simply give the time energy and care to simply share what has been learned.
Now is it scary to simply see reality? Is magic and the supernatural now bred as instinctive? Is it possible that each can actually think and see if the truth applies?
So if a word above is incorrect based on real application, please speak up!
And that is a humble request as I am asking for an honest answer and not of a biased predetermination but to see if there is more to learn.
Vajradhara
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Namaste Bishadi,
thank you for the post.
can you given an example of this? i suspect that we are not using the term "evolution" in the same manner as this term, for me, is indicative of biological processes only.
why does that seem important?
most beings that hold the view of souls and spirits do not think they are the same thing. is it your view that soul and spirit are the same aspect of being?
they haven't?
not according to the Suttas.
Buddhas arise in a world system when the Dharma is no longer present.
when Buddha Shakyamuni was asked if he was a "man" he said "no".
metta,
~v
thank you for the post.
can you given an example of this? i suspect that we are not using the term "evolution" in the same manner as this term, for me, is indicative of biological processes only.
why does that seem important?
most beings that hold the view of souls and spirits do not think they are the same thing. is it your view that soul and spirit are the same aspect of being?
they haven't?
not according to the Suttas.
Buddhas arise in a world system when the Dharma is no longer present.
when Buddha Shakyamuni was asked if he was a "man" he said "no".
metta,
~v
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Which school of Buddhism endorses this method of forceful discursive homogenization for online discussions?
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Yes, you are reading something you may never had seen before. Today, your knowledge evolved since yesterday. So the collection of mass known as you has learned.
To follow a set of literature not compatible with personal experience remains opinion.
So defining a reincarnation of a spirit/soul or whatever you wish to call the ‘thing’ moving forward in time, upon physical death…. Is speculative! There is a reality behind it but to describe that reality in actual physical application is much different than most have the knowledge to comprehend. So they rely on opinions rather than do the homework.
But is mass entangled by energy as momentum changes the passage of time between the entangled mass? Yes.
What this means is that if you walked within a room you imposed a physical interaction with that location even when you are no longer there. For example; a women wearing a strong perfume and walks by in a large crowd you may never see the person but the point is you have a faculty capable of noticing the presence; smell.
Funny part is she may not have been there for quite some time. So you could notice a presence when they are really not there …… other than what they left.
As for the Buddha or what interpretations each have to debate, I am not interested in argumentative interactions.
A question was asked about ‘another buddha’….. it was an easy one and the best I (this opinion) can offer was written. If someone wants to go over any specifics as to how the opinion was derived, then ask otherwise I am not interested in tearing down material just to retain a position.
Seems best to build.
seattlegal
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I could easily picture my Sensei using this method.Which school of Buddhism endorses this method of forceful discursive homogenization for online discussions?
The phrase you used would seem to be an oxymoron if you do not consider the interconnectedness of everything, (which is not the same as homogenization.) The pie in the face was in answer to this question:
Vajradhara posted what would happen if that would be the case:
Which is not anticipated to happen for quite a while. {Bringing it back to the original topic.
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Of course there are other views, including: (1) The idea for a Buddha Maitreya was a marketing gimmick that was intended (long after Guatama's death) to make Buddhism competitive with the Abrahamic religions, which all have a Messianic eschatology {Islam’s long-awaited Mahdi, Judaism's Moshiach, and Christianity's returning Jesus}, or (2) the Buddha Maitreya can be seen as a mythic archetype signifying the historical presence/manifestation of the Buddha nature .... not in some distant future, but in this world right now.
seattlegal
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Interesting concept. Let's see what the Buddhists have to say about it.
Vajradhara
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Namaste Bishadi,
thank you for the post.
ok, so we are using the term differently. i understand what you mean.
i asked several questions.
metta,
~v
thank you for the post.
ok, so we are using the term differently. i understand what you mean.
i asked several questions.
metta,
~v
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Words are to convey ideas and definitions; does the word 'evolution' offer an acceptably descibed term to define a progression?
Did the post offer the material knowledge to convey; answering each question posted?
Quite literally.
Self sacrafice of personal objectives to contribute to the total.
most all knowledge came from the same type,
See Confucious, Gallileo, Jesus, Newton, Mohammed, Ghandi ..... the list is quite substantial.
Most all of them were contributors and are very much alive in the gifts they left for us all; honor them as they gave by their intent to contribute putting themselves second to personal needs.
As each person alive is capable of exactly the same ability, equally.
Could we each consider this a 'choice' thing?
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Vajradhara
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Namaste Bishadi,
thank you for the post.
indeed, we are using a very different understanding of the term "evolution".
i would suggest that my knowledge has increased or i've acquired more knowledge rather than the knowledge which i once possessed becoming a different knowledge.... but that could just be a semantic quibble.
i disagree with this statement in it's entirety.. though i could be misunderstanding you.
are you saying that it is a beings option to accept knowledge from a text in which they have no direct experience or that accepting knowledge from a text in which you don't have direct experience means that the knowledge you've accepted is subjective rather than intersubjective?
i don't think that anything moves forward upon the dissolution of the physical form, such a view is foreign to Buddha Dharma.
i would agree, however, that human experience can only be related through metaphor.
except for massless particles.
interestingly enough, in the Rosen-Poldosky Paradox they demonstrated that this effect... entanglement... extends throughout the universe and, even more amazingly, the effects happen instantaneously from one side of the universe to another.
it sounds like what you are suggesting is that human interactors have an influence upon ontological reality...?
so your not interested in having your opinion discussed unless it's supportive?
metta,
~v
thank you for the post.
indeed, we are using a very different understanding of the term "evolution".
i would suggest that my knowledge has increased or i've acquired more knowledge rather than the knowledge which i once possessed becoming a different knowledge.... but that could just be a semantic quibble.
i disagree with this statement in it's entirety.. though i could be misunderstanding you.
are you saying that it is a beings option to accept knowledge from a text in which they have no direct experience or that accepting knowledge from a text in which you don't have direct experience means that the knowledge you've accepted is subjective rather than intersubjective?
i don't think that anything moves forward upon the dissolution of the physical form, such a view is foreign to Buddha Dharma.
i would agree, however, that human experience can only be related through metaphor.
except for massless particles.
interestingly enough, in the Rosen-Poldosky Paradox they demonstrated that this effect... entanglement... extends throughout the universe and, even more amazingly, the effects happen instantaneously from one side of the universe to another.
it sounds like what you are suggesting is that human interactors have an influence upon ontological reality...?
so your not interested in having your opinion discussed unless it's supportive?
metta,
~v
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“”””To follow a set of literature not compatible with personal experience remains opinion “””””
The dialect, the cultural acceptance or even whether a person is color blind; the point is that to read the complete Vedic literature set and find that what is written does not equate to what is realized as true, then the material is simply an opinion from the writer. Try some words of wisdom
“”” believe nothing no matter where you read it or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and common sense. ‘’’’’
“””But is mass entangled by energy as momentum changes the passage of time between the entangled mass? Yes””””
Is that trinity of existence; GOD.. as entanglement is a physical property of energy (light) means that all mass is associating by entanglement of light.
If I say the word Armageddon; does it have a meaning based on a description created a long time ago? Then is it something affecting people today, based on something that hasn’t happened or is simply an event described of the future, from some period in the past?
Such is what faiths have done to mankind.
If an opinion is being mentioned that suggest the same; if what is being suggested is literally true then both will feel the reality of the words.
No intent to read what has been believed for generations unless there is ‘good’ to be built from the rational of understanding; no interest in faith derived in phenomena, unless there is resolve that reveals the truth.
Such as if I say ‘the sky is purple’ and you go outside and find it blue.
The dialect, the cultural acceptance or even whether a person is color blind; the point is that to read the complete Vedic literature set and find that what is written does not equate to what is realized as true, then the material is simply an opinion from the writer. Try some words of wisdom
“”” believe nothing no matter where you read it or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and common sense. ‘’’’’
First you said “I don’t think that’ and then close in suggesting the works of Buddha
So you think nothing moves forward? Then how are you learning Buddha dharma? Men live and walk, do and die; what they do is paramount for the energy that a person contributes (what they impose upon existence) is what lives beyond the grave. Or in a purely physical form; you as you stand; do you look like your parents? Your grandparents? The house your great great great grand pappy built; does it stand? Was it built on good foundation, with good walls, good intent, and still alive based on the gift of energy by the choice of a person?
I disagree. Metaphor are good for usage but directly attributing knowledge and direct experience has much to offer.
“””But is mass entangled by energy as momentum changes the passage of time between the entangled mass? Yes””””
No such thing as energy itself has is mass affixed in time. The interrelation is not isolated from each other; hence point particles in reality, do not exist. The idea of massless particles are creations of energy interacting within other mass energy. Such to hold a hydrogen atom and take the electron off and give it to a buddy. In real form neither have a single unit but a portion of the other. And the only way for either to hold the other half is if energy is isolating the 2. So mass less than an H is simply a portion of a unit that was changed in time by energy. Electrons and protons are not building blocks; each ‘f’ of energy (spectrum) are them building blocks. And to take a line item ‘f’ and split it (BBC crystal) then now you have a massless particle….
Glad to see you know that. Because then you can understand that if all of existence is entangled to ‘the total’ then you can comprehend what ‘gravity’ is. Or even better; recognize the three; all mass, all energy, all time: ONE
Is that trinity of existence; GOD.. as entanglement is a physical property of energy (light) means that all mass is associating by entanglement of light.
If you read the word Holocaust; does it have a meaning caused by mankind?
If I say the word Armageddon; does it have a meaning based on a description created a long time ago? Then is it something affecting people today, based on something that hasn’t happened or is simply an event described of the future, from some period in the past?
Such is what faiths have done to mankind.
Not asking for support. Simply to be pure in honesty.
If an opinion is being mentioned that suggest the same; if what is being suggested is literally true then both will feel the reality of the words.
No intent to read what has been believed for generations unless there is ‘good’ to be built from the rational of understanding; no interest in faith derived in phenomena, unless there is resolve that reveals the truth.
Vajradhara
One of Many
Namaste Bishadi,
thank you for the post.
that doesn't make sense at all. the writer, in this context, is writing from his subjective experience. i completely agree, however, that such is not intersubjective and thus cannot form the basis of ones experiential knowledge.
one cannot know what a Durian tastes like by reading about it.
to whom was this Sutta spoken and for what reason? would you suggest that i in the same situation as the beings to whom this Sutta was spoken? given my understanding of this Sutta i wouldn't think that such an argument would be compelling though i'd be happy to hear your view.
correct. there is nothing which transmigrates.
through reading, studying and practicing.. the same way that most anybody learns about anything... which has nothing to do with transmigration.
i don't believe that energy is transferred in this manner... and, even if it were, it would so completely impersonal as to be completely unrelated to self in any manner.
neither. i look like me.
we actually agree on this point, i think. human language expresses subjective experience through metaphor ala the taste of a Durian.
indeed.. they are all probability clouds.
sure, that was demonstrated in General Relativity. gravity is accelerated motion. spacetime = mass + energy + times arrow.
no, unless you posit a non sentient deity at which point why would it matter?
not according to the experiments. the entanglement happens faster than light can travel; it is a quantum entanglement. though, of course, mass and energy are in fact the same thing.
all human words have a meaning caused by mankind.. its the very definition of the term, i'd say.
i'm not sure what that means though i'm of the impression that the respondents on this forum are being as honest when they respond to a post.
metta,
~v
thank you for the post.
that doesn't make sense at all. the writer, in this context, is writing from his subjective experience. i completely agree, however, that such is not intersubjective and thus cannot form the basis of ones experiential knowledge.
one cannot know what a Durian tastes like by reading about it.
to whom was this Sutta spoken and for what reason? would you suggest that i in the same situation as the beings to whom this Sutta was spoken? given my understanding of this Sutta i wouldn't think that such an argument would be compelling though i'd be happy to hear your view.
correct. there is nothing which transmigrates.
through reading, studying and practicing.. the same way that most anybody learns about anything... which has nothing to do with transmigration.
i don't believe that energy is transferred in this manner... and, even if it were, it would so completely impersonal as to be completely unrelated to self in any manner.
neither. i look like me.
we actually agree on this point, i think. human language expresses subjective experience through metaphor ala the taste of a Durian.
indeed.. they are all probability clouds.
sure, that was demonstrated in General Relativity. gravity is accelerated motion. spacetime = mass + energy + times arrow.
no, unless you posit a non sentient deity at which point why would it matter?
not according to the experiments. the entanglement happens faster than light can travel; it is a quantum entanglement. though, of course, mass and energy are in fact the same thing.
all human words have a meaning caused by mankind.. its the very definition of the term, i'd say.
i'm not sure what that means though i'm of the impression that the respondents on this forum are being as honest when they respond to a post.
metta,
~v