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cyberpi
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Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for you that one of your members should perish, and not that your whole body should be cast into hell.
Matthew 5:17-18 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, until heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, until all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for you that one of your members should perish, and not that your whole body should be cast into hell.
Matthew 5:17-18 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, until heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, until all be fulfilled.
It appears to me as selfish, prideful, unfaithful, unfearful, and disobedient when in pursuit of an "unconditional love". There are conditions. The gospels are full of conditions. If there is a bare minimum upon which there is an unconditional aspect of love, then who wants to dwell there? Who wants to dwell in that hell? Who wants to be that charity case? Why be so heart hardened to not get off and away from that bare minimum? I submit that the lover of unconditional love had best try being unconditionally loving to all others... or consider that all agreement and faith is rooted in the meeting of some conditions imposed by each other.
Netti-Netti
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Hello Mee, very quickly, I'd like to underscore what I was talking about. - Not about being inclined to sin (just some basic personal self-discipline takes care of the overt behavioral aspect). Rather, I was talking about internal struggle and maladaptive ways in which some cope with the intrapsychic conflict, which involves the dissonance described in Galatians 5:17
I suspect those who are actively producing the fruitage of God’s spirit in their lives are actually more likely to experience these internal conflicts - and also more likely to experience them very intensely - precisely because they want G-d's love and are attuned to G-d's leadings.
It seems some people who don't really care about what G-d wants for them. They just go their merry way, deceiving themselves and others, persisting in unrighteous self-idolatry, consorting with deceptive spirits, lying even to those who love them, laughing off the inflictions they wreak upon the world, bemused by their own hypocrisies, all the while staying busy with the sinful distractions by which they continually ignore G-d's claim on their soul.
Again, I'm not talking about any specific overt acts of sin. I'm talking about the inner life. It would seem some folks don't have the internal conflict I'm referring to at all even when they are totally mired in sin.
I was at a Catholic seminary the other day and having a discussion on conversion. One person said something to effect that conversion was no longer an issue once you've had a conversion experience. I was astounded. To me at least, it's a constant process and a constant struggle to resist sin and death.
Like I said, this struggle involves conflicts that keep me alert to the fact that what I want and what G-d wants for me are not always the same thing. Sometimes they're not even close.
greymare
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hey, in my bible (yes i do have one) it says proverbs 1:7........stupid people have no respect for wisdom and refuse to learn.........
yes, well and you wonder why i have a problem with the bible........ sheeesh, not everyone is smart. similar to a thread i started elsewhere......... now i have the answer...... prv1:7b thnks for nothing, on behalf of all the stupid people out there.
yes, well and you wonder why i have a problem with the bible........ sheeesh, not everyone is smart. similar to a thread i started elsewhere......... now i have the answer...... prv1:7b thnks for nothing, on behalf of all the stupid people out there.
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mee
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no cloth yourself with a new personality. strip off the old one .ephesians 4;22 JOHN 17;3
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mee
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Yes that is true , we are all imperfect
greymare
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but it wont make me smart now will it??
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mee
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But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.
psalm 37;11 its not about being smart or wise in a worldly way , its about being teachable . And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.
"God chose the foolish things of the world, that he might put the wise men to shame."—1 CORINTHIANS 1:27.
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mee
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but it will make you righteous in Gods eyes
At that time Jesus said in response: "I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to babes. matthew 11;25
"Since, in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not get to know God, God saw good through the foolishness of what is preached to save those believing."—1 CORINTHIANS 1:21.
greymare
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for every sentence you quote in the bible there is an equal sentence in the bible disproving it......... i rest my case
Hi greymare,
Sometimes I see it this way, when reading the bible! Makes you wonder.
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Joe
Sometimes I see it this way, when reading the bible! Makes you wonder.
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Joe
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mee
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PERSONS who have a right heart condition appreciate the need of doing that which is well-pleasing in the sight of God.
Although the world may exert pressure to cause them to follow in the way that is approved by the majority, they stand firm in devotion to the Almighty God.
They wisely recognize that "the way of man is not in himself; it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." (Jer. 10:23, AS)
What may seem right in the eyes of sin-laden man may not be right in the eyes of God. So be wise, "trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, and lean not upon thine own understanding: in all thy ways acknowledge him, and he will direct thy paths."—Prov. 3:5, 6, AS.