Genuine Question To Theists (all faiths)

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Okay.

The planet earth. How old is it, factoring in whatever faith you happen to have, into the equation? What is your straight and pointed answer to that one?

Oh.

And it would be especially interesting to hear from a theist who also considered themselves to be of a scientific mind...

Thanks
 
enlightenment said:
Okay.

The planet earth. How old is it, factoring in whatever faith you happen to have, into the equation? What is your straight and pointed answer to that one?

Oh.

And it would be especially interesting to hear from a theist who also considered themselves to be of a scientific mind...

Thanks
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I have no idea...I've heard the scientists, but I don't know if it all is completely accurate. 4.5 billion, is that the latest and greatest? I'll go with that. I mean what is how old, when it was molten gue, before or after some asteroid spit out the moon, after the seas formed? Or does the big bang or whatever it was constitute the beginning....hmmm sounds confusing...how old is earth, from conception or birth... or is that another question..or is it?

(can't wait for part II)
 
Many theists I have spoken to, esp those in the US, would assert that world is only a few thousand years old, despite massive evidence to the contrary.

They claim this is stated in scripture.

Is that so?
 
enlightenment said:
Many theists I have spoken to, esp those in the US, would assert that world is only a few thousand years old, despite massive evidence to the contrary.

They claim this is stated in scripture.

Is that so?
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Define many. Is it most? Or is it a few. Of all the theists you know, do a poll, what percentage?

You'll find those that add up the ages and generations back from Jesus or Moses to Adam and then add seven days...I think you'll also find those are few and far between (despite the thousands that go to the creationist museum which 'proves' the contention, this is the minority)
 
wil said:
Define many. Is it most? Or is it a few. Of all the theists you know, do a poll, what percentage?

You'll find those that add up the ages and generations back from Jesus or Moses to Adam and then add seven days...I think you'll also find those are few and far between (despite the thousands that go to the creationist museum which 'proves' the contention, this is the minority)
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LOL, well I didn't make up a chart or anything, but let's say enough to make you shake your head, and think WOW, are these people for real, im what they assert? Can they really be so blind as to ignore the scientific evidence that lies before their eyes?

I could not fairly give you a % mate, but too many, let's put it that way.

Some even think that man and the dinosaurs co-existed!


:rolleyes:
 
Ask around in the Boston area and you'd probably get very different answers from theists.
 
dauer said:
Ask around in the Boston area and you'd probably get very different answers from theists.
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Uh huh. I have a friend that lives someplace in Boston, and she would say the same.

However, for the so called Bible Belt area is vast, backward, bigoted, and like a ball and chain around the ankle of any nation that wants to be modern.

Would you concur?
 
Yeah definitely.

I didn't mean that nobody in Boston views things that way, just that, if you did a poll, I think you'd see a statistically significant difference in the types of answers theists gave.
 
I am not from the US, obviously.

Could you please, in your view, list what you consider to be the most bible belt states, and those that are most progressive?

It's part of a question...........
 
I couldn't either. I'm not well traveled. I've been up and down the east coast as far as Quebec to the north and Florida to the south. In my own experience Boston is very liberal but then some areas of Western Massachusetts are less so. When I've been to some parts of Rhode Island it felt like it could've well been the south.
 
enlightenment said:
I am not from the US, obviously.

Could you please, in your view, list what you consider to be the most bible belt states, and those that are most progressive?

It's part of a question...........
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We've got a big old stretch across the south center of the U.S. where literal interpretation of their Bible is the norm. It's called the "Bible Belt." The people are backward; they exult in their ignorance of science; they despise education. They think the Bible is the only book they have to read.



This includes places such as Florida, Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, and other such polluted backwaters. What's strange is that there are some very good Universities in these states. It's when you get out of the cities that you enter the Stone Age.

Every now and then we read news articles where the “creation science” syllabus is brought before local school boards and presented as an alternative to the physical sciences. I think it's truly sad and troublesome when these moonbats in academia are filling the heads of our kids with religious doctrine instead of math and science.

Just loopy—full-blown, over the rainbow, ain't comin' back loopy. These people are in a strange and dark place that I cannot relate to and am quite grateful to not be in myself.
 
dauer said:
I couldn't either. I'm not well traveled. I've been up and down the east coast as far as Quebec to the north and Florida to the south. In my own experience Boston is very liberal but then some areas of Western Massachusetts are less so. When I've been to some parts of Rhode Island it felt like it could've well been the south.
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Fair play.

Do you think the more modern states should formally seperate from the Bible Belt, since we are agreed that the BB area is a ball and chain to the US?

In other words, various states would branch off, to form not one, but two seperate nations.

The diversity of the US is also it's achilles heel, right?
 
Resigned said:
We've got a big old stretch across the south center of the U.S. where literal interpretation of their Bible is the norm. It's called the "Bible Belt." The people are backward; they exult in their ignorance of science; they despise education. They think the Bible is the only book they have to read.



This includes places such as Florida, Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, and other such polluted backwaters. What's strange is that there are some very good Universities in these states. It's when you get out of the cities that you enter the Stone Age.

Every now and then we read news articles where the “creation science” syllabus is brought before local school boards and presented as an alternative to the physical sciences. I think it's truly sad and troublesome when these moonbats in academia are filling the heads of our kids with religious doctrine instead of math and science.

Just loopy—full-blown, over the rainbow, ain't comin' back loopy. These people are in a strange and dark place that I cannot relate to and am quite grateful to not be in myself.
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Do you think there is now too much religous freedom in the US, and has it been absued, in your view?
 
enlightenment said:
Fair play.

Do you think the more modern states should formally seperate from the Bible Belt, since we are agreed that the BB area is a ball and chain to the US?

In other words, various states would branch off, to form not one, but two seperate nations.

The diversity of the US is also it's achilles heel, right?
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I don't because then you have nothing stopping the religious right in those states. They'd be a far greater threat to the rest of us.
 
dauer said:
I don't because then you have nothing stopping the religious right in those states. They'd be a far greater threat to the rest of us.
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Hmm.

True.

But without nukes (in my plan!), their threat could be contained, perhaps, while the more progressive states went on leaving them in the Dark Ages?

If the leg is bad, cut it off, sort of thing?
 
enlightenment said:
Fair play.

Do you think the more modern states should formally seperate from the Bible Belt, since we are agreed that the BB area is a ball and chain to the US?

In other words, various states would branch off, to form not one, but two seperate nations.

The diversity of the US is also it's achilles heel, right?
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The answer would be no. The bible belt area a ball and chain? Hmmmm.... So we'd get rid of Arkansas, the state that gave us Clinton, oh and Carter..so long Georgia, and of course most of the world and the states might rather we get rid of texas that brought us the Bush's.

Oh yeah, we'll let those backwards folks down there go...but wait...you think the majority believe this 10,000 year old earth theory?? But what about the minority, the atheists and scientists and modernists that live there? If we find 50 good ones can they stay? (nother biblical reference for ya)
 
Hand up.

The US is a relatively new nation, in the grand scheme of life, right?

As is Oz.

Why has the former developed this Bible Belt region, while the latter hasn't?
 
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