is Allah transcendental

Any reference of a god that is "aware", "merciful" or "angry" is a projection of ours, where in fact we have no evidence that God gives a rat's ass over human affairs
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Apparently, that has been your take on the issue, no?


All evidence point to God being a person.

Aside from that . . . there is work and labor and work and labor . . . day after aday after day.

Would you opine that "History is filled with wars due to religion"?

I do not agree with that infamous assertion. Not one iota!

Check the history books and the Police department archives and the Courtroom archives and the Law school archives and the all the war movies ever made ---Wars are due to thieft. Grand larceny.

"Junkies robbing for a fix" ---from the barbarians to Charles Manson.

Real estate and natural resources and bragging rights ---like a motocycle gang without any strong enough opponents.


War and suffering in mankind is not due to religion ---it's due to breaking the Golden Rule ---for one's own gratification without due regard for (karmic) repercussions.
 
"War and suffering in mankind is not due to religion ---it's due to breaking the Golden Rule ---for one's own gratification without due regard for (karmic) repercussions."

Do you seriously believe that? Organized religion, about after 100-years becomes "infected" with bureaucracies, dogmas, misinterpretations , and sometimes outright frauds. Some people try to keep the course and the original flame going (which the Prophet started) but usually it withers out due to some spiritual entropy. Wars, atrocities and genocides were done in the name of God. From the Christian and Jewish faiths all the way to Islamic conquests. The major exception is Buddhism ( I am not a true Buddhist but my world view is closer to that). Even the Hindus were not above violence in the name of religion.

bhaktajan said:
Apparently, that has been your take on the issue, no?


All evidence point to God being a person.

Aside from that . . . there is work and labor and work and labor . . . day after aday after day.

Would you opine that "History is filled with wars due to religion"?

I do not agree with that infamous assertion. Not one iota!

Check the history books and the Police department archives and the Courtroom archives and the Law school archives and the all the war movies ever made ---Wars are due to thieft. Grand larceny.

"Junkies robbing for a fix" ---from the barbarians to Charles Manson.

Real estate and natural resources and bragging rights ---like a motocycle gang without any strong enough opponents.


War and suffering in mankind is not due to religion ---it's due to breaking the Golden Rule ---for one's own gratification without due regard for (karmic) repercussions.
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Alas, Hermes, even Buddhists are not above violence these days. Seems there are groups of fundamentalist Buddhists now. Which should be a contradiction in terms.

War and suffering is due to religion. And to race. And to political ideology. And to just about any other endeavor of which mankind is a part. It is part of who we are. Whether one believes in Gods or no, religions are a manmade construct. Like any organization run by humans, it is fallible to the entire range of strengths & weaknesses of humans.
 
Humans are greedy snobs, thats who we are. We will find any pretext to get what we want. Race, religion, color, language, ideology or anything else. Saying religion causes blood shed is like saying gravity kills.
 
Hermes said:
or a personal god?
What I mean is is Allah a personal, anthropomorphic God? Somewhere I read that in Islam the god image is closer to an transcendental god than a "person". i.e. it transcends all explanations or speculations upon, it is perhaps without sex or any characteristics that we humans can comprehend.
And if so why is Allah any different for others who share the same concept. There is only one God.
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Allah is transendent, unchanging, eternal, unique, omniscient, omnipotent etc. World is a manifestation of his attributes and actions, and obviously his quality of "being". So he is both transcendent and imminent at the same time.
 
Allah is transcendent and also personal in that muslims have the most personal relation with Him
 
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