Questions from a seeker

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I am new here, I have a few questions. I have been looking into Baha'i Faith for some time. I find its scripture most moving inspiring and spiritual and the concept, of progressive revelation, independent search for truth, the oneness of God, the unity of man,, the emphasis on service to humanity and to the cause the teaching against prejudice and the unification of the planet, all great and wonderful.

My questions are more on how to understand and/or reconcile certain Baha'i teachings and prophecies. For example, I am very, indeed extremely, familiar with several other faiths and some of the claims that Baha'i books have made as to some sayings and/or prophecies of these religions referring to Bahaullah are definitely, to be kind, not true or at least not really understood correctly. In the Zoroastrian faith, for example, Baha'i books keep on talking about Shah Behram and that the prophecy of his coming refers to Baha'u'llah. Unfortunately, that is NOT a Zoroastrian scriptural prophecy. The prophecy about Shah Behram is not recorded, in any part of the Avesta and especially not in the Gaathas, which are the core of the religious doctrine in Zoroastrianism, being the only extant work of Zarathushtra. Rather the story of Shah Behram, was pushed by Zoroastrian mobeds (priests) in the 10th Century and under Arab rule. They did this in an effort to give hope to people that were despairing under Muslim rule, and leaving the faith.

Then there is the matter of the Shoghi Effendi stating that the Guardianship was vital to the the Administrative Order, so vital in fact that he states that:
1. " The twin pillars that support the mighty Administrative Structure -- the institutions of the Guardianship and of the Universal House of Justice" Shoghi Effendi. The World Order of Baha'u'llah, p. 147
2. "Institution of Guardianship, head cornerstone of the Administrative Order of the cause of Baha'u'llah ..." Shoghi Effendi. Messages to America. p -8
3. "Divorced from the institution of the Guardianship, the World Order of Baha'u'llah would be mutilated and permanently deprived of that hereditary principle which, as Abdul Baha has written has been invariably upheld by the Law of God ... Without such an institution the integrity of the faith would be imperiled and the stability of the entire fabric would be greatly endangered ... " Shoghi Effendi The World Order of Baha'u'llah p- 148

Baha'u'llah himself states: "Unto every one hath been enjoined the writing of a will." Kitab-i-Aqdas paragraph 109

My question about the Guardianship then is how can Mr. effendi not have left a will? True he had no progeny, but certainly he could have adopted some one. So how do Baha'i satisfactorily solve this problem since the Guardian already has estated that withouth the Guardianship the faith would be mutilated and its integrity imperiled?

Finally I want to understand some prophecies or predictions of Abdul Baha. In The Coming Kingdom of God by Esselmont, he cites Abduk Baha's interpretation of the last two verses of Daniel as: "The 1335 days being 1335 solar years, to be counted from Mohammed's flight to Medina in 622 AD when added this would yield 1957, which Abdul Baha the says would be when universal peace will be firmly established a universal language would be promoted, ... The bBaha'i Cause would be promoted in all parts and the oneness of mankind established ..."

Also in AbduL Baha in Canada. p- 35 Abdul baha says that the permanent peace of the world: " ... will be established in the Twentieth century ..."

I am a bit confused what is the correct interpretation of these prophecies or are they evn prophecies?

Thanks for your patience, I want to emphasize that I do not mean to offend or question the credibility of either UHJ nor of the Master.

Lourdes
 
Thanks for your questions Lourdes... I hadn't seen your post until now as I've been somewhat preoccupied with events the past few days taking place in my home town near San Bernardino... but allow me to respond here "off the cuff" to a few of your "questions".

You are probably correct in your assumption that"...the story of Shah Behram, was pushed by Zoroastrian mobeds (priests) in the 10th Century.." Part of the reason for this was that many of the scriptures of Zoroastrianism were lost from the time of the burning of the library of Persepolis and the priests attempted to provide as best they could from recollections what was contained in it.. The Shah Bahram was a common expectation among Iranian Zoroastrians. Baha'u'llah as you may know had ancestral roots in the province of Nur and Mazandaran an old hold out of Zoroastrians.

Regarding your question about Shoghi Effendi.. It is true he did not leave a Will or any appointment of a future Guardian. His passing in 1957 was unexpected... The Hands of the Cause immediately began work to provide the foundations for the Universal House of Justice which was universally elected in 1963. It was determined that there was no means to appoint a Guardian. Today the work of Shoghi Effendi..his translations and directives is still preserved and respected by the House of Justice and in itself is respected as an Institution of the Guardianship.

As to your comment about universal peace being established... I would suggest that sometimes it is difficult to appreciate historical change as we individuals are too close to events and lack a historical perspective... but let me suggest some changes that have occurred in my lifetime alone that may suggest we are today closer to world peace than in the past century...

We have practically instant world communication through the internet that did not exist until the end of the last century..

We have an International Court of Arbitration...

Since WWII we have the United Nations..

The arms race between the old Soviet Union and the United States is over...

While none of the above may be perfect or apparently proving universal peace they are in part steps in that direction. Finally consider the following:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4350860.stm


So Lourdes I wish you well and pray you will seek and find...
 
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Also in AbduL Baha in Canada. p- 35 Abdul baha says that the permanent peace of the world: " ... will be established in the Twentieth century ..."

I am a bit confused what is the correct interpretation of these prophecies or are they evn prophecies?

It's a translation issue. Persian doesn't have a precise word for the English word century. See this Baha'i blog here.
 
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