Absolute Faith

[EternalHindu12]

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[OrtaYol]

Well, since you are not so sure about anyone else's existence, how can you be so sure "I" exists? Descartes' argument is circular reasoning; it assumes "I" exists. As skeptics have noted, instead of saying "I doubt therefore I am," Descartes should have said that "thinking is occurring." If everything is simply blunt physical matter swirling around, then "I" is an illusion. This is naturally where atheism should lead us. Sam Harris sums up the non-existence of the self well here:

Sorry I missed this post.

I don't think "thinking is occurring" is better. It has to be specifically doubt, you can think you are thinking something but be wrong, the thought might be implanted etc. Doubt is the only state of thought that is unchanged, at most you can doubt that you are doubting, which means you are still in a state of doubt. This doesn't apply to other forms of thought.. or does it?

 

[OrtaYol]

Since the conclusion was included in the premise, you entered an infinite loop, a circular argument.

"Sum, ergo cogito: cogito, ergo sum."
-Nietzsche​

Fair enough.. but in this case that's what makes the argument. If you doubt that you are doubting and you doubt that and that ad infinitum, this is what proves to me that I exist.

 

[Ahanu]

Fair enough.. but in this case that's what makes the argument. If you doubt that you are doubting and you doubt that and that ad infinitum, this is what proves to me that I exist.

Okay.