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I wonder if there is any unforgivable sin in Christianity. If so, does that mean God does not love us enough to forgive everything?
Unforgivable Sin
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I wouldn't say so..
Our sins do not affect G-d, yet they have consequences for us.
..just like if you jump off a tall building, there are consequences.
In other words, it is a bit like a loving parent, who watches their child do silly things.
An unforgivable sin, is unforgiveable due to its consequences.
eg. ascribing partners to G-d results in misguidance and disaster
Faithfulservant
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In Christianity the unforgiveable sin is blasphemy of The Holy Spirit. Its a sin not committed by believers but by the unbeliever. Hardening ones heart towards the work of the Holy Spirit in revealing the truth of Jesus Christ.
- Matthew 12:31-32: "Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."
- Mark 3:28-29: "Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven every sin and blasphemy, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin."
- Luke 12:10: "And whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Son of Man will be forgiven."
- Mark 3:28-29: "Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven every sin and blasphemy, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin."
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This talks about it
What Is the “Unforgivable Sin?” - NIV Bible | Mark 3:29
Is there an unforgivable sin? The Bible teaches that those who genuinely seek repentance show that they cannot have committed any unforgivable sin.
www.thenivbible.com
This is one of those passages that gets explained different ways depending on whom you ask. Different denominations or just different individuals will have different takes on what the passage actually mean outside the context of those specific gospel stories, that is, how they would apply to or guide personal conduct for others at other times.
That is physics...a couple principles objects in motion...equal and opposite reaction...two objects cannot...in my belief if ya add the find the rest you find the TOE...the underlying principles which allow this existence imo.
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Why or what is the difference, and is the Holy Spirit Yahweh's feminine side?
Faithfulservant
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Obviously not feminine as He is repeatedly referred to as a "He"
Jesus spoke against the teachings of the Nicolatians. Curious as to why you would embrace that path.
Jesus spoke against the teachings of the Nicolatians. Curious as to why you would embrace that path.
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I was not suggesting that Yahweh was female. Please read again.
If we are to chat much, answer to the actual question. Please.
"Why or what is the difference, and is the Holy Spirit Yahweh's feminine side?"
Faithfulservant
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The Holy Spirit is a person seperate from the Father. I think you know the point im making and you are trying to skirt around it. The Holy Spirit is a He and He can be sinned against.. if you deny The Spirit is a seperate person of the trinity there are several threads that deal with this ad nauseum.
Also there is an introductory thread please go introduce yourself.
Also there is an introductory thread please go introduce yourself.
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The idea that the Holy Spirit could be feminine is an idea that comes from a few sources, one Shekinah, which is a term in Rabbinic Judaism for the presence of God and Kabbalistic Judaism that is said to be the Divine Feminine by some. There's also the term Ruach, for breath, specifically God's breath which causes action in the world (if I understand correctly) and which is apparently a feminine term grammatically. I'd be more than happy to hear from @RabbiO to correct or refine any of what I said.
There's also the idea of equating the Holy Spirit with Sophia or Divine Wisdom which comes from the early days of Christianity.
Still, the term Shekinah is not used in the Hebrew bible at least not in the same way, the closest word is not quite the same and is a masculine name The Holy Spirit being referred to as He in the New Testament is apparently faithful to the Latin term in grammatical gender of masculine.
Shekhinah - Wikipedia
Shekhinah: The Divine Feminine | My Jewish Learning
Divine Feminine in Kabbalah. Renewal of Jewish Mysticism. Modern Jewish Mysticism. Kabbalah and Mysticism. Jewish Spirituality and the Divine World. Jewish Ideas and Beliefs.
www.myjewishlearning.com
Gender of the Holy Spirit - Wikipedia
In JudeoChristian terms, no, as God has neither a masculine nor feminine side ... spirit transcends gender.
It's how we relate to the Spirit that we assign gender.
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Well it's a painting so it's still an interpretation, not some kind of historical record of an event in real time or something.
Yes, that is what I see G!d as, natural law...the underlying principle.
Man's law says don't run a red light you will get a ticket...as I see it that is to save you from G!ds law or natural law....two objects cannot occupy same space at the same time....death may result at the intersection if we don't obey traffic signals....man will give you a ticket...
talib-al-kalim
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For those interested, an excerpt from my commented Gospel edition:
Mk 3:28-30 | Lk 12:10 | Mt 12:31-32 | Th 44 |
| Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness for the Aeon, but is guilty of an everlasting sin” – for they had said, “He has an unclean spirit.” | And every one who speaks a word against the Son-of-Man will be forgiven; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. | Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says a word against the Son-of-Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this aeon or in the Aeon to come. | Jesus said, “Whoever blasphemes against the Father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the Son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven neither on earth nor in heaven.” |
First of all, we have to note that he is talking about what can be forgiven, and what can be forgiven is a sin, and a sin is what we should avoid. It would be completely wrong to understand that such blasphemy does not matter.
The version in Mark differs from the version in Luke (in Lk and Mt parallel) in that Mark could be understood as Jesus saying that all sins will be forgiven (to) the sons of men, which could be interpreted as “all our sins will be forgiven”. But this is not the meaning of the sentence. Mark ends with the reason: “For they said, ‘He has an unclean spirit’. He – that is Jesus. The meaning in Mk is therefore to be understood as it is expressed more explicitly in Lk and Th and the second part in Mt, probably going back to a common source, possibly Matthew. Here we read “against the Son of Man”, where “Son of Man” in the language of the Gospels always refers to Jesus as a person; Jesus says that blasphemy against Him will be forgiven.
It is also worth noting that, according to each version, Jesus said not only that it can be forgiven, but that it will be forgiven. He promises to forgive all his enemies, just as he taught us to forgive, working in the Spirit of God to build His Kingdom, as he said in his message quoted above.
On the other hand, Jesus gives the message that whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. As with the previous message, this is expressed in absolute terms; not “may not be forgiven”, but “will not be forgiven”. How is it that Jesus will definitely forgive, whereas the Spirit of God will definitely not forgive?
A human being cannot know the truth behind it, but only thoughts about it. One reason that fits well with the message of the Quran may be that whoever goes so far as to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God who is in contact with us, will lose contact with God and cannot be corrected and guided, so that this person will definitely be lost.
Finally, we have the hadith version of Th, which says “Whoever blasphemes against the Father will be forgiven”.
At first glance, this seems completely out of place: Why would God promise to forgive blasphemy against Him, but not against the Holy Spirit? The hadith is weak and the other versions are stronger, so we just ignore it.
If we read it a second time, we may wonder how it is that this passage, which seems absolutely absurd, could have been added to the original message heard from Jesus.
Is it possible that Jesus said that blasphemy against God would be forgiven? Of course, Jesus himself cannot promise that blasphemy against God will be forgiven, unlike what he says about himself. But if we understand Jesus as a messenger of God, it may be the direct speech of God. And God, the All-Merciful, may have decided in the same way.
Nevertheless, we should with all our will avoid challenging such a promise, even if it does not seem impossible when we think about this weak hadith, first of all because it is not confirmed in the Quran or in any other reliable scripture, but above all because we should love God with all our heart so that we can never fall into this temptation. Rather the Quran, saying,
Quran 2:97-98 | Say, “Whoever is hostile to Gabriel – it is he who revealed it to your heart by God's leave, confirming what preceded it, and guidance and good news for the believers.” Whoever is hostile to God, and His angels, and His messengers, and Gabriel, and Michael – God is hostile to the faithless. |
Quran 2:268 | Satan promises you poverty, and urges you to immorality; but God promises you forgiveness from Himself, and grace. God is Embracing and Knowing. |