Correct, He came to fulfill it . Matthew 5:17-18, Jesus states that he did not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets, but to fulfill them.
Could it be that there are only a few verses that address a certain subject, however the interpretation of these verses cannot contradict the rest of the Bible.
Yes, but they are both God and God made the Creation.
Yahweh kid, this is very heavy on my heart. In my understanding, this is not something that can just be glossed over. The distinction between the Persons(T) is every bit as important as their oneness. We can't just casually say that the Father is the Son, and then and when someone objects say "Yeah, but" as if it doesn't matter.
Off topic just a tad. Years ago when I was so blessed with figuring things out, I used a pendulum and created a 500 word list that used sides and layers to communicate with minds. During earlier conversations I would find that often words would be spelt backwards and chained together with no breaks before the word lists. So whats this got to do with the price of tea in china, well really nothing it is your user name that pulled my string so to speak. Yehweh spelt back words says "he way" or "his way" I always find this interesting as it would seem like something minds would say and it kind of fits for those that believe in god.
Cute.
I agree. I failed you my friend, I am sorry. I hope you find someone(a better scholar than me) who can help you make sense of it all and that you may find peace on this matter. Amen.
Wow. So you think that the distinction between the Persons(T) is only an issue for scholars? It has nothing to do with salvation, and faithfulness to Christ?
No, of course not.
Then I don't understand how you can say "The Father is the Son," then when I object to that you say "Yeahbut ..." and when I object to that you say "I hope you can find someone more scholarly ..."
Jesus said....."he that hath seen me hath seen the Father"
I'm sorry for the heatedness in my posts, I have the warmest feelings for you. This has helped me to see something in myself that I never saw before, and didn't have words for. The distinction between the Persons(T) is actually a salvation issue for me. Yup, guys and girls, I said that, I did. It's a salvation issue for me. Not that I think a person has to believe it to be saved, but because erasing it like I see people doing is one of many ways that I think that people promoting their "Christian" beliefs are hiding the kingdom of Jesus from people, and even repelling them away from it.
Are you saying that the Father is the Son? OMG this is much worse than I thought, or could have thought.
We have a lot in common when it comes to Christianity. Because of my lack of english understanding I might not get the message you trying to relay to me... Plz explain how it is a Salvation issue for you in layman's terms plz.
That's not what I said, it's what Jesus said.
I'm sorry, I shouldn't be picking on you, this is only a drop in an ocean. Tilting at windmills, I am.
Maybe that could explain it. In case you didn't know, in English at least, "the Father is the Son" is contrary to the teachings of all mainstream churches, and maybe even all the churches that call themselves "Christian." That doesn't mean that you're wrong, it's just a traumatizing surprise for me that you would say that, and double down on it.
The Father is the Son and He is not the Son..... how do we explain it?
Who is the Creator, the Father or the Son? What did Jesus mean when He said if you seen me you seen the Father? I accept that God is three distinct persons.
I apologize. I think I was wrong. Maybe it isn't contrary to the teachings of mainstream Protestant churches, because they have dropped the word "distinct" from the description of the Trinity. In the ancient church, and maybe still in the Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches, it was "three distinct persons," but now in the Protestant churches it has become "three persons" without any distinctions between them.
