On Fallen Angels

So do you think that every person who has experienced it must be a liar?
I think they were mentally unstable and needed help. I think certain services, such as the Catholic Church, provided exorcisms and needed to over-dramatize what happened. Clinically, there are no actual reports of levitation.

It's called Reality . . .
 
😂 "Ignorance is bliss"
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You have not been blessed by myth, legend and superstition?...that's sad.
I think he was talking about the remark in post #138
Or the exchange #138, #139, #140... (#141 which you were replying to)


(I couldn't quote all of them together as they are on different pages and when I try it doesn't work)
 
I do wonder why LaVey and Michael J Ford choose the comic-book villain look ... it hardly enhances their credibility.
 
Then again, they'd probably say that about practitioners of the LHP ... ;)
How is that? The LHP is a philosophy, it doesn't believe in unproven things such as deities, demons, angels, devils, and such. Claiming that demon-possessed people float up to the ceiling is straight out of Hollywood.
 
I do wonder why LaVey and Michael J Ford choose the comic-book villain look ... it hardly enhances their credibility.
Wonder no more!
Anton LaVey adopted that distinctive appearance to emphasize his role as a charismatic and provocative figure in the burgeoning Satanist movement of the 20th century. His choice to wear black clothing, don a shaved head, and sport a goatee was a statement against mainstream norms and a symbol of defiance against societal expectations.

LaVey's appearance, with its theatrical flair, mirrored his philosophical stance on individualism, self-empowerment, and the rejection of religious and societal taboos. It also served to attract attention and challenge conventional thinking about religion and the occult. His image became iconic within Satanism and left a lasting impression on the cultural perception of the movement.

Many religious leaders throughout history have adopted highly intentional appearances, whether to signal authority, spiritual attainment, rejection of the world, or to stand apart from the mainstream.
 
Anton LaVey adopted that distinctive appearance to emphasize his role as a charismatic and provocative figure in the burgeoning Satanist movement of the 20th century. His choice to wear black clothing, don a shaved head, and sport a goatee was a statement against mainstream norms and a symbol of defiance against societal expectations.
Actually I've done a bit of digging myself.

LaVey's appearance, with its theatrical flair, mirrored his philosophical stance on individualism, self-empowerment, and the rejection of religious and societal taboos. It also served to attract attention and challenge conventional thinking about religion and the occult. His image became iconic within Satanism and left a lasting impression on the cultural perception of the movement.
Well he certainly was a showman, but I rather think his appearance was the product of 'societal expectations', as he dressed pretty-much exactly as the culture would suppose a Satanist to dress – following 'the most evil man in the world' stereotypes, rather than staking out something new or individual – so more commercially-oriented than actually individualistic – Christopher Lee's 'Dracula', or 'Ming the Merciless' in the Flash Gordon comic strip, that kind of thing. His mannered posing today just strikes me as 'hammy', but I suppose it was bang on target for the audience he sought to attract.

It seems he took the idea of the 'self-made man' which he clearly was, then and dressed it in all manner of arcane and occult stuff and promoted it as a new religion – in which then he is an astute player of counter-culture idealism of the era. All show and no substance, that kind of thing.

Amusingly, he hated rock and metal music, somewhat at odds with the self-styled satanism of many rock and metal bands!
 
Actually I've done a bit of digging myself.


Well he certainly was a showman, but I rather think his appearance was the product of 'societal expectations', as he dressed pretty-much exactly as the culture would suppose a Satanist to dress – following 'the most evil man in the world' stereotypes, rather than staking out something new or individual – so more commercially-oriented than actually individualistic – Christopher Lee's 'Dracula', or 'Ming the Merciless' in the Flash Gordon comic strip, that kind of thing. His mannered posing today just strikes me as 'hammy', but I suppose it was bang on target for the audience he sought to attract.

It seems he took the idea of the 'self-made man' which he clearly was, then and dressed it in all manner of arcane and occult stuff and promoted it as a new religion – in which then he is an astute player of counter-culture idealism of the era. All show and no substance, that kind of thing.

Amusingly, he hated rock and metal music, somewhat at odds with the self-styled satanism of many rock and metal bands!
I'm not a LeVayan Satanist; however, I do recognize his contributions to Satanism and other esoteric paths, despite his drama. Dr. Michael Aquino (former High Priest of The Church 0f Satan) left the Church to start The Temple 0f Set in 1975. He has written the definitive book about The Church 0f Satan, including what was positive and what was negative about LaVey's organization and his experience within The Church.
 
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