What would you advise the self-entrapped?

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The constrained one does not realize that,
its unyielding grip on its belief - its own conceptualization of reality
is what keeps it constrained.

What would you advise the self-entrapped?
 
EddieC said:
What would you advise the self-entrapped?
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If the 'self-entrapped' is seeking advice, then the advice depends on the question.

If not seeking advice –
1: Are they a risk to themselves?
2: Are they a risk to others?

If 'no' to both, then on what basis is one offering unsought advice?

And how does one know that the advice offered is not itself from a position of constraint?
 
EddieC said:
What would you advise the self-entrapped?
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A loop is what you're in
when you get nowhere, though you try
Like a bee against a window
you'll be stuck there till you die
There is no real horizon
where the ocean meets the sky
You have to climb out of a loop
to escape, you have to rise
Then standing at a distance
you may look back in surprise
To see the loop was never there at all
So what are you outside?
 
I meet people whose beliefs trap them into addictions, drugs, alcohol, self harm, suicidal ideation.
Some are trapped into believing, that anyone who does not believe as they do, are a threat.
 
EricPH said:
I meet people whose beliefs trap them into addictions, drugs, alcohol, self harm, suicidal ideation.
Some are trapped into believing, that anyone who does not believe as they do, are a threat.
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As someone who works daily with such unfortunate folks on the street, do you have something to say to them? I understand that every individual person is a different.
 
EricPH said:
I meet people whose beliefs trap them into addictions, drugs, alcohol, self harm, suicidal ideation.
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Absolutely, I've also worked with people so full of preconceptions that you can almost see the wheels turning when they try to fit novel experiences into a rigid frame.

The opposite isn't healthy either though, dissociation and psychosis can be triggered by a lack of certainty and firm foundations.

There's a balance we each have to find, I think. Some people need a castle of certainties to feel safe and secure.

I've managed to trim down to a coracle of concepts - tatty, flexible, full of holes, liable to fall apart at any moment. But now every journey is an adventure!
 
Many drugs and to some extent alcohol are physical problems. By the time you're that hooked, it's not just a mental trap. Quitting involves real physical suffering?
 
EricPH said:
I meet people whose beliefs trap them into addictions, drugs, alcohol, self harm, suicidal ideation.
Some are trapped into believing, that anyone who does not believe as they do, are a threat.
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Is it not the case that such additions are often the result of trying to escape the place they are in? Self-medication.

I have a niece who has lived with anorexia for decades. She manages it, and it manages her ... in some cases I've heard sufferers actually 'name' the condition and bargain/dialogue with it ...
 
RJM said:
As someone who works daily with such unfortunate folks on the street, do you have something to say to them?
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I generally listen, more than talk. Most of them know the solutions, they just can't seem to make it work. If you ask them for advice, they can
often give advice to other people.
 
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