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Silas
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What does Christ' sacrifical death accomplish?
The short answer? As I understand it, it provides a substitute for our sins so that we may, through grace, enter sinless into paradise.
The long answer would take volumes...
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Silas
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So would you agree that the curse of the Law by which God judges us is lifted and therefore there is no condemnation because Christ drained the cup of God's wrath?
As long as we accept the gift - yes.
BlaznFattyz
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salvation and everlasting life for those who believe in his name and call on him. it also affects those that continue to do evil, the lord will judge the world and the wrath of god's righteousness will be poured out.
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Silas
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Note the following scripture:
1John 2:2 "He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. "
Does Christ death acually take away the sins of the world inasmuch as it cancels the sinner's sin bill before God? That's what I'm asking.
1John 2:2 "He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. "
Does Christ death acually take away the sins of the world inasmuch as it cancels the sinner's sin bill before God? That's what I'm asking.
If the individual accepts the gift - Yes.
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Silas
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Do people not accept the gift because of unbelief?
Or contempt, maybe...Generally "Yes".
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Silas
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Like lying, killing, stealing, blasphemy, etc., is the sin of unbelief paid for by Christ's atoning scarifice?
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Silas
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No. (Just kidding)
All sin is paid.
(Where ya goin' here Willis?)
If all sins are paid for (including the sin of unbelief), what are those in hell paying for?
Is unbelief a sin? By the way, I see where you're going. Interesting thought, I'm listening!
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Silas
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I wonder if you do see where I'm going with this? Yeah, unbelief is a sin. In my mind, its probably one of the worst? The athesit says there is no God and is a fool, says the psalmsist. I, a Christian, say that there is a God and doubt Him sometimes. What kind of an idiot am I? God knows, I hate when I doubt Him! All that said, I agree with you that someone has to believe before they can be saved. So lets work this out. Why dont some people take the free gift?
(IMO) Because they don't want to make a decision and have to be responsible for making changes in their lives.
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Silas
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They do this knowing the consequence that they'll be facing?
I think they choose to ignore the consequences or pretend that they don't exist.
"There is a way that seemeth right in a man's eyes, but the end thereof is death."
taijasi
Gnōthi seauton
The short answer to the question:
... certainly not vicarious atonement - for there is no such thing, under the Law.
... certainly not vicarious atonement - for there is no such thing, under the Law.
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mee
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"God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life."—JOHN 3:16.
because of the ransom, we have hope
Christ’s ransom opens the way for the fulfillment of God’s purpose—that obedient humans live forever in Paradise on earth. (Psalm 37:29)