This is true religion

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Life goes where they are caused to interest in an arranged manner and ultimately there is no more inward or observance of what is the self even while there is an experience of what is the whole self.

I really dislike your use of "interest", if you are interested it means you have become identified with a curiosity. My experience is more of a flowing with the stream, a celebration along the course of the river and on into the ocean. Whatsoever arises is to enjoy, but you err if it has drawn you away from your center, your inner balance.

Communication and where it is occurring is force (power and this is not figurative) and it is the causation of emotion. Relative to what you are going around with (never having to look up) at your activity places you are either participating within what is a continuous experience of good emotion with wisdom as caused to interest rerlating to what God is interested with now.

Is it your opinion that you are the doer of the activities you are aware of within your body? Are any of your actions necessary for you to be present in?

This is being understood to you. With what is my continuous orientation, subjects and activities that are continuable are seen (related, understood, communicated about) together.

This I call observing as a witness only, all of the manifest and all the unmanifest are ultimately one being. Science is even agreeing more and more that this world is not ultimately real at all, this is often described in religious circles as saying this world is as a dream. Only the unmanifest can really be called real, the manifest is simply a playground, an imagination.

You are confusing Religion with God.

Are you asserting that there is something other than God? I do not like to call it God, I prefer to say "existence" simply because it is all that actually exists. In awakening, this reality is made perfectly clear, there is no longer a barrier between any object and subject, God is an object in the dual mind.

This can not be understood this way. You can understand something completely about awareness and how knowledge and experiences are formed that are not about what is called thinking, when you are able to experience an interest with what God is doing with everyone and everything, as always, again and again.

I simply say that mind is involved too much in your words, you appear knowledgeable but knowledge has resulted in much nonsense. I think you have experienced divinity, but mind has reasserted and now you are trying to comprehend it too much. Mind cannot understand it, it is better to offer devices for encountering it than trying to explain rationally.

There is an area of what is communicating spirit that can be discussed this way. This is not where life is understanding free of integrations, nervous system information, mind, etc. This area is around to create change and is understanding within multiplicity.

Change can be understood as a wave, what effect does it really have on the ocean? Change is not created, it is simply the different streams being experienced, yet there should be a deep and solitary balance within you which is not affected at all by the changes, simply observing them as clouds passing by, remaining the clear blue sky.

You can understand something about atoms when they are spun up and united whole (gravity being collected and laid perfect for an experience that places instantaneous sight knowing). What you see on a TV set, computer, or a book with what you understand as your eyes, you can go over and see directly. When your interest is outside of quantums, brines, rabbit holes and the hydrocarbon jumping of the nervous system, then you can see your interest where they are existing whole, without a third party interpreter. Within the causation of movement that is above what can be called the locations of quantum (fission and fusion), there is activity and communication that appreciates.

I only point at atoms because it is verifiable that this is so, it is not different in a more gross sense, it is simply perceived in a more rationale way - this is a mind filtering. All that arises in existence is not actually there, it is much like a television, a play of lights and energy which can be perceived as a conceivable whole. This is not to speak against it, it is to realize that all is simply a play already, celebrate everything but do not become identified - it is actually utterly false.
 
Knowledge and Experiencing is not housed only inside of a religious circumstance or any other location of life that understands itself to be telling someone else something they can not continue to say. Life that is in a divided grouping is not participating with knowledge or experiences in a way that appreciates. There is an end to the experience of desire and seeking and it is able to be had by all aware life.

I do not say knowledge or experience is religious at all, only wisdom and witnessing can be called religious.

This is okay to say this way, if you understand what the life (force and power and information) of a computer can always do. Life having a mind area that is activated like a computer when it is understanding CERN, is having a nervous breakdown back and forth.

It is simply fact, asserting that mind is something existential is false, you will give it power because you believe it is important. Mind is something which must be overcome, utilized against itself, then only utilized as a tool thereafter. It is not what witnesses or understands, it too is something which arises in consciousness. If it were you, how can you observe its assertions?

You can look into what Samsara has been caused together with as areas of it are not understanding anymore within what is the United Area (continuous experience, a united one dimension). The united area is a rotational force that is flowing continuously. You are understanding something about the Area of God as Always or Brahman with parts of this. It is not the same at the United Circumstance where there is sight and continuous experience of what is whole.

I cannot say that the United Area is rationale at all, it is completely non-sensical. Mind will reject and fight because of its lack of rationality, although you are perfectly correct that it is a lower state than direct encounters of God. To participate and enjoy this place, we must part from a state which is a complete oneness with God, for in this state we do not perceive anything of the imagination - samsara - and thus it becomes difficult to interact.

There is something about the TV set and movies that God can cause you to understand completely for what they will always do that you are at unity with. Love is really not how they experience and it is instead celebration.

I try to use the word "bliss" instead of love, only because the unawakened do not know at all what love is. It has become such a gross word, it is more like hate than the reality of love. Love is all there ever truly is, but until that pure love is felt, known, it is not a good word to use like this.
 
All that you speak of is prior to absolute merging, you speak of God as other because mind still believes it is distinct. You have hinted towards satori's, but you non-the-less hold on to individuality, you seem to have experienced truth but returned to illusion. Ultimately, the dew drop must completely fall into the ocean, and in so doing the dew drop will be impossible to distinguish.

Your last statement is interesting though, it shows a persistent duality in you. If a movie director sets up a scene that calls for a thousand deaths but the actors simply get up when he calls cut, has the director created something evil? What if the director is also staring in the film, and kills himself off during the film, still he gets up and continues directing the remaining movie. Is there evil in this? It is simply an entertaining screen play, but there is a deep purpose in it all...

Tragedy is necessary to bring people to question reality, people brought up religious will perhaps accept their faith, but they will never enquire into the the depths of it. For most, religion is simply a past time, a tradition. For others, it is a seeking related to the inevitability of death, a query into those "why's" which we all share, nothing short of a direct realization of truth will satisfy them. It is these mature souls, the ones that see lifes pointlessness, that see that even if you kill yourself you will simply be subject to it again, it is these that find what religion attempts to show.

Religion isn't an interesting topic to study, it isn't a game we play once a week, it is a single minded devotion towards a particular goal, and yet viewing it as a goal will ensure you never reach.
 
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