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[mojobadshah]

Living in the U.S. I've noticed that the Queen of England gets a lot of press, the Pope gets press, and the Sheiks are supported by U.S. interests. The Queen of England is the head of the Anglican Church. The Pope is the head of the Catholic church and the Sheiks are the head of the religious state known as Saudi Arabia. Now all the big expressions (e.g. God < Ahura Mazda, the Son that God < Zarathushtra, and the Holy Ghost < Spenta Mainyu) into what makes the Anglican Church the Anglican Church, the Catholic Church the Catholic Church, and Muslim nation originated with Zarathushtra and the Aryan people, but the Aryan people don't get press. If anything what the kind of treatment the Aryan people have received in the United States is mostly all negative. A war that was started by a Saudi Arabian. An invasion by a military that is composed of mostly protestants and catholic Christians. And a death toll that grossly exceeds the 911 death toll. Defraud by neo-nazis and racial philosophers. Why is it so easy for Americans and I guess westerners in general to kiss up to the Queen of England, the Pope, and the Sheiks and not the rightful custodians of these expressions, the Aryans, that they boast of so often?

 

[seattlegal]

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz..........

 

[mojobadshah]

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz..........

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzoroaster?

Hey that's the way I feel about the Queen of England, the Pope, and Islam. Why people have a fascination with copycat religions and not the real thing is beyond me. They all preach the same message right?

 

[seattlegal]

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzoroaster?

Hey that's the way I feel about the Queen of England, the Pope, and Islam. Why people have a fascination with copycat religions and not the real thing is beyond me. They all preach the same message right?

The ZZZZZZZzzzzzz.... was in regard to the cultural/collectivist framing and sweeping generalizations.

 

[iBrian]

Why is it so easy for Americans and I guess westerners in general to kiss up to the Queen of England, the Pope, and the Sheiks and not the rightful custodians of these expressions, the Aryans, that they boast of so often?

They don't.

Queen Elizabeth II gets press in the UK about her state functions; the Pope makes the news because he's the hub for hundreds of millions of people around the world; I can't recall any single Sheik getting positive press attention in the UK press.

I don't recall any of the figures mentioned boasting that their beliefs may have been influenced from about five millennia ago.

Also, I'm not sure there is any people who identify themselves as "Arayan" in Iran - though I'm sure if the Zoroastrians there held political influence over hundreds of millions of people in the West, I'm sure there would be coverage.

Any other strawmen you want to pick at?

 

[mojobadshah]

They don't.

Queen Elizabeth II gets press in the UK about her state functions; the Pope makes the news because he's the hub for hundreds of millions of people around the world; I can't recall any single Sheik getting positive press attention in the UK press.

Mention of the Queen and the royal family comes up in the news over here (U.S.) consistently. We never hear about any other queens or royal families. Yeah the pope is the hub of millions of people who have never heard of Zarathushtra before. Does that mean Zarathushtra is not important. From a purely intellectual viewpoint Zarathushtra is the reason there is a Pope. Without his proliferations like a "single benevolent God," "the son of God" and "the holy spirit" Christianity probably be deader than Greek mythology because at least Greek mythology is the product of genuine Greek heritage.

I don't recall any of the figures mentioned boasting that their beliefs may have been influenced from about five millennia ago.

Religious heads, politicians, and even artists are consistently making use of expressions like God < Ahura Mazda, the son of God < Jesus < Zarathushtra, and the Holy Spirit < Spenta Mainyu. Of course these are not exactly identical expressions, but similar enough to raise concern.

Also, I'm not sure there is any people who identify themselves as "Arayan" in Iran - though I'm sure if the Zoroastrians there held political influence over hundreds of millions of people in the West, I'm sure there would be coverage.

There are. Its just like with many European descended Christian Americans. Underneath all that Christianity or Islam in the case of the Irano-Afghans there is an Aryan.

Any other strawmen you want to pick at?

I don't want to pick at anymore strawmen. I think I've made my point. The aforementioned figures do not deserve the coverage that they get and the Irano-Afghans don't deserve the kind of coverage that they're getting. But I'd also like to make a suggestion: I noticed that there was a booth dedicated to Zarathushtra and Zarthushtis marching at the Persian New Years parade Noeruz. I would like the press to put in a few words every year during the Persian to mention how the Persian New Years parade was founded by Zarathushtra and tell us a little bit about who Zarathushtra was, how he was an Aryan, how he believed in one God (and you know I'd want them to make a point about how they held this belief long before the Jews did) and maybe a few more words about the similarities between the Zarathushtrian religion and Christianity. And when the press is covering the epiphany I would also like them to mention a few words about how the three wisemen were called magi and how Zarthushtra was the father of the magi.

 

[wil]

Frankly, while I am interested in Zoroaster, Zoroastrianism, you and your posts have completely turned myself and many others off completely.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar...while it is true the squeaky wheel gets the grease...but if the grease don't work the squeaky wheel is left by the side of the road to rot.

 

[mojobadshah]

Frankly, while I am interested in Zoroaster, Zoroastrianism, you and your posts have completely turned myself and many others off completely.

Because you and whoever can't handle the truth.