What are your reasons for believing in God?

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Personally, I guess I've always believed in God even as a child. I just somehow knew there must be a higher power than ourselves. Something I saw on TV some years back really hit home for me though. It was a comment made in jest between 2 friends trying to answer this very question. One said to the other that you have to believe, because if you did and after you died it turned out that there was no God.... well than no harm done, but if you didn't believe and after you died it turned out there was a God.... well than you were just screwed! Many a true word is spoken in jest I suppose. Anyway, just thought I'd ask.
 
Hello NJ,
Welcome. You're story has indeed been around for a long time. The religious insurance angle. Problem with the concept for me is that I do not believe that any god that demands worship deserves worship. Worship Me Or Else seems a petty attitude for an entity that is all knowing and all powerful.

Namaste
 
Hi NJ, welcome to the forum. :)

Isn't that Pascal's Wager?

For me, moral arguments for the existence of God worked... along with a teleological argument.

I hope you enjoy this forum, there are varieties of people here with varieties of faiths and beliefs... one of the best places to expand your mind.


Tad
 
Gordian Knot said:
Hello NJ,
Welcome. You're story has indeed been around for a long time. The religious insurance angle. Problem with the concept for me is that I do not believe that any god that demands worship deserves worship. Worship Me Or Else seems a petty attitude for an entity that is all knowing and all powerful.

Namaste
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I have had experiences that confirm there is a god one was what they called a near death experience. Before that I just knew he existed by faith.
 
Gordian Knot said:
Hello NJ,
Welcome. You're story has indeed been around for a long time. The religious insurance angle. Problem with the concept for me is that I do not believe that any god that demands worship deserves worship. Worship Me Or Else seems a petty attitude for an entity that is all knowing and all powerful.

Namaste
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Yes that nature of the scripture rubs me the wrong way too at times, but I don't think God intended it that way. I believe it's more a part of poor translation and scriber interpretation that makes it sound demanding and threatening.
 
If there is a Creator G!d.... and you spend your life not believing in G!d, I can't imagine it being pissedabout this...

You are H!s creation after all... Do you get mad at the pottery you make for not believing in you?
 
I suppose not, but then again God didn't make pottery; he made people. His children as it were. Certainly it's not unreasonable for a parent to get mad at their kids for not doing as they're told or even to punish them when they misbehave.
 
Namaste Jesus said:
I suppose not, but then again God didn't make pottery; he made people. His children as it were. Certainly it's not unreasonable for a parent to get mad at their kids for not doing as they're told or even to punish them when they misbehave.
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I think becoming mad is the result of patience running out. I can not imagine a creator with finite patience.

Punishment I don't see the point to.
 
i think what you believe about God is more significant than actually believing in God in the first place.
 
A Cup Of Tea said:
I think becoming mad is the result of patience running out. I can not imagine a creator with finite patience.

Punishment I don't see the point to.
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Fair enough, but I think it's more a question of disappointment rather than lost patience. As far as punishment is concerned, every child is different. Some can simply be reasoned with. While others have to be shown in no uncertain terms the consequences of their actions. A bit of tough love so to speak.
 
Namaste Jesus said:
Fair enough, but I think it's more a question of disappointment rather than lost patience. As far as punishment is concerned, every child is different. Some can simply be reasoned with. While others have to be shown in no uncertain terms the consequences of their actions. A bit of tough love so to speak.
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Is it appropriate for us to anthropomorphize God. We were made in his image, not the other way around. Right?
 
Namaste Jesus said:
Fair enough, but I think it's more a question of disappointment rather than lost patience. As far as punishment is concerned, every child is different. Some can simply be reasoned with. While others have to be shown in no uncertain terms the consequences of their actions. A bit of tough love so to speak.
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Still, disappointment isn't anything I can imagine a perfect being that creates with absolute power should ever have the opportunity to feel.

And again, a parents inability to reason with their child lies in the parents inability, in my opinion. I can not see God being limited in that way.

I'm not trying to belittle you're beliefs and opinions, I'm simply pointing out where I don't understand them. I can't comprehend your idea of the world.

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no not sarcasm.
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Then I stand by what I said, very thought provoking. I'm having such trouble putting my finger on your philosophy. I guess it's your haiku-short sentences that keeps me on my toes, ready to interpret.
 
Namaste Jesus said:
I suppose not, but then again God didn't make pottery; he made people. His children as it were. Certainly it's not unreasonable for a parent to get mad at their kids for not doing as they're told or even to punish them when they misbehave.
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floods, death, that is punishment....nope I don't believe in any passive aggressive G!d with our human traits...

as humans we are punished by our sins...not for them...

we make laws...like look both ways at intersections...nature has a bigger law...two objects cannot occupy the same place at the same time...and that whole force and mass and energy thing...

NiceCupOfTea said:
i think what you believe about God is more significant than actually believing in God in the first place.
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Exactamentary....
 
I like this. Good dialog indeed. Everyone sees God differently according to their own life experience and prospective and that's a good thing. I think there is much to be learned by sharing our individual opinions. Of course, being human, our perception of God is limited. As Earth bound mortals, we just can not see the big picture and how it all ties together. Only God knows the truth, the whys the hows and the end result. The best we can do is speculate. My own ministry has one simple decree, it's not important how you believe, why you believe or what you believe, only that you believe.
 
A Cup Of Tea said:
Then I stand by what I said, very thought provoking. I'm having such trouble putting my finger on your philosophy. I guess it's your haiku-short sentences that keeps me on my toes, ready to interpret.
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Hi A Cup of Tea.

I have exactly the same problem with myself.
 
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