'You will burn in hell!'

... it is quite clear people interpret the Bible in the way which suits their needs!
Ooh, don't limit that just to Christians.

You might consider that the next time you offer your own interpretation ;)
 
Ooh, don't limit that just to Christians.

You might consider that the next time you offer your own interpretation ;)

I read what is in the Bible, I don't look for hidden meanings, because when you start doing that you can interpret any which way you want, as people do!
 
All Christians--especially including the literal and figurative children--understand plenty enough of the bible on their own, to take in the milk - that which matters most. Later, when the Christian has matured enough and is ready, he/she can take in the meat. The milk-fed Christians may not understand all the nuances of every verse. But the point is they don't have to. Being forgiven and saved isn't contingent upon grasping the mystery of the Trinity, or completely understanding the Parable of the Sower.

Now that's the way of it
 
It makes me laugh when some Christians pretend to have a superior understanding than others of the no so good book!
 
All Christians--especially including the literal and figurative children--understand plenty enough of the bible on their own, to take in the milk - that which matters most. Later, when the Christian has matured enough and is ready, he/she can take in the meat. The milk-fed Christians may not understand all the nuances of every verse. But the point is they don't have to. Being forgiven and saved isn't contingent upon grasping the mystery of the Trinity, or completely understanding the Parable of the Sower.

Okay. That makes sense to me. I am relieved as it was causing me considerable angst.
 
It makes me laugh when some Christians pretend to have a superior understanding than others of the no so good book!

It makes me laugh when those sitting in front of a telly that is unpluged, complain there is nothing on
 
I suppose you mean you are plugged into the Bible, which is quite funny really!:D
 
It makes me laugh when some Christians pretend to have a superior understanding than others of the no so good book!
I think you deserve an award for how many insults you can cast within so few words. Ok so you laugh at Christians. You laugh at the ones who pass on helpful information they have learned. And not only that, but, you think the bible is not a good book.

I just want you to know that laughing at others, mocking them, scoffing at them, insulting their beliefs, and acting superior in and of yourself---is not very becoming of a 64-year-old Grandmother. I would hope that anyone fortunate enough to last 64 long years on this Earth would have learned by now to chill out a little bit, discuss matters rationally and civilly, and seek the truth, wherever that takes you. It could be me, but what I would expect from the pen of a Grandmother of your stature would be thoughtful remarks shaped from your myriad life experiences. A better word for what one should expect from you is.... wisdom.

That said, I do appreciate your input and I hope you stay around here a very long time. In fact, truth be told, I find your words and antics very stimulating. You strengthen my faith. And I appreciate that.
 
Some of you are very amusing!:D I am told I am insulting because I believe the literal portrayal of the Biblical deity makes it out to be an evil b*stard!I have a perfect right to challenge stuff in the Bible as it can be a force for horrible abuse. I have not been as personally insulting to any member of this forum as they have been to me! But carry on it only confirms my view of the more radical Bible believing 'saved' mob.
 
Some of you are very amusing!:D I am told I am insulting because I believe the literal portrayal of the Biblical deity makes it out to be an evil b*stard!I have a perfect right to challenge stuff in the Bible as it can be a force for horrible abuse. I have not been as personally insulting to any member of this forum as they have been to me! But carry on it only confirms my view of the more radical Bible believing 'saved' mob.

So, you come to throw stones (Albeit very small stones) and complain when people object?

It is not as if you raise serious objections that would actually challenge peoples' beliefs, you might get better responses but rather it seems you are just intent on making trivial snippy comments to bolster your own ego
 
I am told I am insulting because I believe the literal portrayal of the Biblical deity makes it out to be an evil b*stard!
Well lets get back to the root of the issue, shall we?

You posted:
I have been posting on another forum where some 'born again' Christian posters seem to be salivating at the idea of heathens like myself burning in hell forever and ever. How sick is that?
About as silly as your literal reading of the text that sees the Biblical deity as an evil b*stard? :rolleyes:
 
Hey, Quirkybird!

This has gone on long enough. Let me take the weight off your shoulders.

I am, I think I can say without fear of contradiction, the most hard-line, conservative, indeed Catholic Christian you'll find on this forum.

I am, I think I can say without fear of contradiction, probably more steeped in the writings of the Christian Tradition than anyone here ...

So let me tell you straight out: Fear not: you will not burn in hell.

Anyone says you will, send 'em to me. Anyone draws any delight from the idea that anyone burns in hell, you send 'em to me.

You've earned your rest. I shall be your champion.

I've got a degree in Divinity, and three black belts, so one way or t'other, I'll sort it! ;)
 
Q,

There is no question that the God of the Old Testament did terrible things. But the 'being saved' people on this forum (as you have described them) excuse these stories away as perhaps-not-so-well-meaning-hyperbole and "literary license". But these things do not change the fact that these terrible stories about a mean, vindictive God are in the Old Testament.

You need to just hang in there and keep pointing out to these people, "I want you to acknowledge that these terrible stories about a mean, vindictive God are in the Old Testament." Until you can get these people to acknowledge such things, I'm afraid you are not going to make much progress arguing your case.

Keep it up. Use a technique from assertiveness training called Broken Record. Keep repeating, "I want you to acknowledge that these terrible stories about a mean, vindictive God are in the Old Testament," until you get some responses.

And, remember; if they are not willing to acknowledge your point of view, then you don't have to acknowledge theirs.
 
So, you come to throw stones (Albeit very small stones) and complain when people object?

It is not as if you raise serious objections that would actually challenge peoples' beliefs, you might get better responses but rather it seems you are just intent on making trivial snippy comments to bolster your own ego

I am not complaining, it is others who seem to have an issue with me. :confused:
 
Hey, Quirkybird!

This has gone on long enough. Let me take the weight off your shoulders.

I am, I think I can say without fear of contradiction, the most hard-line, conservative, indeed Catholic Christian you'll find on this forum.

I am, I think I can say without fear of contradiction, probably more steeped in the writings of the Christian Tradition than anyone here ...

So let me tell you straight out: Fear not: you will not burn in hell.

Anyone says you will, send 'em to me. Anyone draws any delight from the idea that anyone burns in hell, you send 'em to me.

You've earned your rest. I shall be your champion.

I've got a degree in Divinity, and three black belts, so one way or t'other, I'll sort it! ;)

Thank you dear, but this totally senile old bat (according to my kids:D) is quite used to fighting her own battles and has been doing so since she first drew breath!:D
 
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