How to bound meditation.

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I would like to here about how do we bound our thoughts without failure. Once you decide to think only on something, how to do you do that or can it be done at all?
 
A yoga instructor told me once that the key to meditation is noticing when your thoughts begin to wander. To me, that implies that you get better with practice.
 
Yep. Like anything practice makes one better. Meditation is typically a slow learning curve. First attempts, it is difficult to keep the mind from wandering. Over time it becomes much easier to keep focused.

On the issue of binding our thoughts without failure, if I understand what you are asking, it is how to have just successful thoughts. Is that right?

The trick to good meditative mantras is that they must always be a positive message. For instance 'I do not fail' is a negative statement, and the subconscious will only pay attention to the word 'fail'. The more you think 'I do not fail', 'I do not fail', 'I do not fail', the more your subconscious is hearing 'fail', 'fail', 'fail'.

But if one meditates on 'I am successful', then the mind focuses on the actual outlook you are trying to attain. Another trick for good meditations is not to make a statement that is not true.

If one is not successful, saying 'I am successful' as a meditation is not going to work because you know you are not yet successful. Better to meditate on something like 'I exceed at being successful', or 'Success comes easily to me'. Which is an open ended statement that you are telling yourself can and will happen going forward.
 
No Gordian. I didn't mean successful thoughts. But actually, anyone will meditate for certain reason. If he is able to do that, he will find success in meditating and may be also in the area in which he intends to improve through meditation.
 
I am trying to meditate because I want to get closer to God and get away from evil.
What are the reasons for you guys to meditate.
 
PK,

I believe we have something called a Higher Self. It is said that it is through meditation that we come in closer contact with our Higher Self. It is also said that every attempt at mediation, even if not 'successful', brings us closer to our Higher Self.

It is also said that one main "purpose of life" for us is to become more in contact with our Higher Self.
 
NP,

I think higher self is our state at a higher level. When we become more good, peaceful, wise. I was talking about getting close to the God, not my higher self.
 
I think that prayer and other religious rituals help one get closer to G-d. The details depend on one's particular belief system.

Meditation, which I've heard defined as "focusing the mind", goes together with those practices. By focusing on prayer and religious practice as you do it, they become more effective.
 
PK said "I am trying to meditate because I want to get closer to God and get away from evil. What are the reasons for you guys to meditate."

Meditation for me has several purposes. At its most basic, it quiets the mind. We in modern western societies have so much coming at us from so many directions all the time, that our mind is a jangle of thoughts. Worse, all this stuff coming at us is mostly completely secular. It crowds out any thought that we are more than physical and there is more to life than physical things.

Even something as basic as quieting the mind, allows me to put all that aside for a time. When the mind is still, it allows us to focus on other aspects of what it means to be alive. Connecting with a higher power if that is what one believes. Or connecting with oneself and our own spirituality. The two are not mutually exclusive, though they can be.

As to getting closer to God and away from evil. I don't think anyone can give you that answer. Only you can. You have a vision of what God is. We don't know what that may be. Similarly we do not know what you mean when you say evil. What does evil mean to you. Are we talking about the evils of our baser natures? Are we speaking more of a religious evil, like thoughts that are against a certain religious tradition?

Those are the kinds of questions you should ask yourself. At the moment, at least from what you have written here, your terms are too generic. You need to work down to the specifics of what it is you desire to accomplish.
 
PK, you said,

"I was talking about getting close to the God, not my higher self."

--> To me, both activities are the same, both in methods and results of those methods.
 
just observe the thoughts under close observation they just go quiet.

easy said than done I know :)


as for getting close to God, you are already as close as you get get, you are not separate anyway, that’s just an illusion
 
work on 5 minutes a day...and build it...

use a ritual...do this at the same time, same place same way every day...and note your thoughts every day...

as you comfortably build the time to say 20 minutes...start doing 5 minutes elsewhere...in the car before a meeting, on the subway or bus...at a park bench with noisy distractions...

learn to connect whenever, wherever....practice..yes it takes practice...
 
As an exercise, try to spend five minutes without thinking about an elephant.
 
It only counts if you do it intentionally. I.e., for the next five minutes, I will not think of an elephant.
 
how did you do? I only know this as an old and obvious joke.... are you indicating there is an actual exercise like this with value toward meditation?
 
I think while doing meditating keeping your mind free will be best. Also trying to focus your mind on a single place will stop it from wondering around. Its no doubt that it will give you instant improvement, you have to keep practicing the meditation to get better results.
 
Another technique I remember is "Ujjayi breathing". I've personally found it useful in blocking unwanted "noise" from my thoughts.

I don't know anything about this web site, but the article on breathing looks accurate:
Ujjayi Breath | The Chopra Center

Take an inhalation that is slightly deeper than normal. With your mouth closed, exhale through your nose while constricting your throat muscles. If you are doing this correctly, you should sound like Darth Vader from Star Wars.
Click to expand...
 
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