Ok, if that's what you meant to say. I can't tell you how any of them (is) appropriate in a faith discussion, because I don't see any of them as appropriate.Well just read the list again and tell me how any of them ANY of them is appropriate in a faith discussion
Ok, if that's what you meant to say. I can't tell you how any of them (is) appropriate in a faith discussion, because I don't see any of them as appropriate.
and now thoroughly confused as to the intent of your posts.
INTRODUCTION - “KNOW YOURSELF”
1. In both East and West, we may trace a journey which has led humanity down the centuries to meet and engage truth more and more deeply. It is a journey which has unfolded—as it must—within the horizon of personal self-consciousness: the more human beings know reality and the world, the more they know themselves in their uniqueness, with the question of the meaning of things and of their very existence becoming ever more pressing. This is why all that is the object of our knowledge becomes a part of our life. The admonition Know yourself was carved on the temple portal at Delphi, as testimony to a basic truth to be adopted as a minimal norm by those who seek to set themselves apart from the rest of creation as “human beings”, that is as those who “know themselves”. (Fides et Ratio, John-Paul II)
You left off the last one....
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Spot on. That's what Aquinas' Summa Theologiae is all about.I don't 'get' faith so I'm asking here: aren't reason distinct from but not mutually exclusive from faith? Perhaps build the foundation (axioms?) out of faith and build from there with reason?
I'm not sure my beliefs are reasonable or logical. Are you?I have yet to meet the faith based person that doesn't believe his belief is logical and reasonable.