Can one rationally acknowledge miracles?

I have yet to see any magic done in and for religion.
OK, but I would say the difference is predominantly semantic...

Not only are "miracles" mentioned in the Bible, for instance, but so are magicians and sorcerors and witches...granting recognition of their presence and abilities, often in royal courts, and in one case as a misguided representative of the fledgling Christian faith. And that is just within Judaism and Christianity.

This is not counting the various faiths that focus on "magic." I mean, seriously, what significant difference between saying a prayer for healing, and incanting a prayer for healing...apart from the visceral response of who is being prayed to?

To take this a step further for illustration: what difference between Jesus turning water to wine, and Pharoah's magician turning water to blood? From an ignorant bystander's point of view, I think both acts would be considered much the same way, whether one chooses to call these acts magic or a miracle.
 
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Not sure I understand. Could you elaborate a little? Can I not practice my faith and never step foot in any sanctuary built by humans?

In the Hebrew Scriptures God says: “Let there be light” (Genesis 1:3)

In the New Testament John writes: “I am the light of the world" (John 8:12)

A Moslem hadith says: “I was a Treasure unknown then I desired to be known so I created a creation to which I made Myself known; then they knew Me.”

If we accept the modern liberal egalitarian sentimental notion that all men are saved, that each man gets to God his own way and under his own steam, and has no need of Scriptures, gurus or whatever, then the question is, what’s the point of revelation?

In light of which, I would say the point of revelation and the message transmitted by religion directs to a sanctuary that’s actually founded by God, for us, that we might know Him. It’s the place where Creator and creature can dwell together.

The structure may be human, but the scheme originates in the Divine and the Divine dwells there, with us, in a way not so easily accessible from without. It’s what in sanskrit is referred to as upaya, an expedient means.

The Covenant is a dialogue between God and man.

"Do this in remembrance of me."

The words above are reported by St Paul and St Luke at the institution of the Eucharist at the Last Supper. The Greek for remembrance is 'anamnesis'

Remembrance is not simply the common intellectual function, the calling-to-mind of things passed. In its theological context it has a more profound spectrum of meaning, especially if we associate it with the Hebrew word 'memra', which again infers recollection, but in the context of the Hebrew Tradition means not simply the recalling of past events, but making the past present, immediately and immanently present by transcending the mundane realm of time and space and entering into the Divine.

Anamnesis, memra, is the eternal now.

For the (Traditional) Christian, the anamnesis places us in the heart of the mystery. We are one bread, one body (1 Corinthians 10:17) or, as we call it in the Christian Tradition, we are one in the Mystical Christ. Here the work of metanoia takes place, here is where He 'makes all things anew' (Revelations 21:5).

I have often pondered the words of the Liturgy. One insight is how profound and unnoticed the meaning of the words spoken, the other is how profoundly the congregation is drawn into the process. The concluding words of the Eucharistic Prayer are:
“Through him, and with him, and in him,
O God, almighty Father,
in the unity of the Holy Spirit,
all glory and honour is yours,
for ever and ever.”

This prayer is spoken by the priest alone, yet time and again I have experience the congregation swept up into the moment, and muttering the prayer along with him. It’s quite something. Moreso in that often the congregation is almost unconscious of what it is doing.

But the congregation is in the sanctuary, and whether or not they are conscious of what is happening, it is happening, and it is happening in them. This is the point of revelation: that all men be saved (1 Timothy 2:4).
 
I think without any religion when people were troubled they would sit in the silence and contemplate ...without outside instruction... They would sit and hope, talk to themselves about their hopes and dreams for something better....without any instruction from others... And would feel comfort in the retrospection received...again naturally...without instruction from others.
 
This prayer is spoken by the priest alone, yet time and again I have experience the congregation swept up into the moment, and muttering the prayer along with him. It’s quite something. Moreso in that often the congregation is almost unconscious of what it is doing.
Great answer, Thomas!

I find myself returning to my recent comments about magic and miracles...
 
I think without any religion when people were troubled they would sit in the silence and contemplate ...without outside instruction... They would sit and hope, talk to themselves about their hopes and dreams for something better....without any instruction from others... And would feel comfort in the retrospection received...again naturally...without instruction from others.
Yes, but that's a natural process isn't it?

There's been research into meditation now that 'mindfulness' is being practiced in the studio, the prison, the school, the workplace and the boardroom. It's a booming trend.

It's been shown that we'd get the same result pondering a painting, or reading poetry, or listening to soothing music, or ...

Meditation as a spiritual practice is a whole other ballgame, and other research has demonstrated there's a risk of severe depression and other adverse psychological conditions if spiritual exercises are utilised with no conceptual grasp of the spiritual domain in question. Again New Scientist has suggested there's almost a conspiracy of silence among practitioners to ignore the casualties.
 
Only because this has application to the prehistory thread, I would be interested to see the article, particularly in light of Jung's work with symbology (archetypes) especially pertaining to caves, and the psychologically induced visions from being deep in caves (reported by modern spelunkers, and sometimes quoted in reference to the cave paintings such as at Lascaux *Ganzfeld Effect).
 
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"Can One Rationally Acknowledge Miracles?"

Probably, if there is an eyewitness to the event; and only to the eyewitness, the event would be a miracle.
 
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