Is God In Charge Or Is The System In Charge?

[rupert333]

This applies to the new age arena alone, I suppose.

The System is thus:

Be nice and loving and you raise your vibration and rise up to nicer and nicer planes of life.

Be bad and hateful and the opposite happens. DOWN YOU GO.

Now. Did God create this system? Or was it a side effect of reality? Did the system exist before God? And despite of God?

Why is the system not the other way around? Being bad takes you to finer and finer levels of reality.

Why does love speed you up? Is it purely God's judgement that it should be so? Is it the opposite way in other realities?

Or is God a controlling, judgemental force all over the place?

In YOUR beliefs love is the only thing that can cure hate. It's a maxim I hear often. How do you find love when you are being sent into a hellish world full of other people devoid of love? Surely if you need love then when you hate you should GO UP the vibrations. To a place where you better receive love.

I suspect God is just trying to protect his heaven. From people who act beastly. Nasty! Who wouldn't keep out such people? We all do. We lock them up so they never even have a chance of getting into our homes.

Unless of course your God is just as subject to the system as we are....which means the New Age God is second in command. To a system beyond his control.

Love and light.

 

[iBrian]

Why does love speed you up? Is it purely God's judgement that it should be so?

Because God is love. Therefore acts of love and kindness, especially toward strangers, makes your actions more reflective of the Divine.

How is that answer?

 

[rupert333]

Because God is love. Therefore acts of love and kindness, especially toward strangers, makes your actions more reflective of the Divine.

How is that answer?

New agers believe we are all aspects of God. bits of him. which means we are all LOVE. Ted Bundy? Love? Hitler? Love? If God created us from himself then we are all love and all we do is love therefore hate is love and should raise my vibration.

Maybe you will say that we lack the wisdom to be totally love. Then God isn't LOVE he's just full of wisdom. Wisdom is love. Not God.

 

[TheLightWithin]

Which New Agers? New Age is pretty broad, and doesn't have set established doctrines.

The System is thus:

Be nice and loving and you raise your vibration and rise up to nicer and nicer planes of life.

Be bad and hateful and the opposite happens. DOWN YOU GO.

What system? Can you share what you were reading that gave you this information? Does anybody call it a system? They could I suppose. To me this sounds a bit like the idea of karma in Eastern religions, yes possibly as translated by "new age" authors into English. But which authors are you reading? What do you think of any of this?

 

[Thomas]

... then we are all love and all we do is love therefore hate is love and should raise my vibration...

This, even from a New Age standpoint, is irrational.

Have you investigated 'hate' from a NA standpoint – bearing in mind there is no single position, you've got a lot of work on your hands.

Maybe you will say that we lack the wisdom to be totally love. Then God isn't LOVE he's just full of wisdom. Wisdom is love. Not God.

The logic here fails:
We are (supposedly) 'part of God', but not God-as-such – our existence is conditional,
We fall short of Divine Love in that we do not love unconditionally.
We fall short of Divine Wisdom because our wisdom is likewise conditional.
That does not mean God is not love absolutely, nor wisdom absolutely.

 

[Thomas]

I can only echo @TheLightWithin –

This applies to the new age arena alone, I suppose.
The System is thus:
Be nice and loving and you raise your vibration and rise up to nicer and nicer planes of life.
Be bad and hateful and the opposite happens. DOWN YOU GO.

Which 'System' are you referring to, as the New Age is a broad and diverse set of beliefs.

In YOUR beliefs love is the only thing that can cure hate.

I repeat the question.

I suspect you're just having a 'general purpose rant'.

 

[muhammad_isa]

We are (supposedly) 'part of God', but not God-as-such..

Yes .. we are finite, while G-d is not.