Baha'i faith influenced off an other relgion?

Postmaster said:
Personally I think there is a blood line, Baha'u'llah royal heritage is ancient if im not mistaken. There is a connection with the theology even so and I think it would be significant. Baha'u'llah claimed in his books as he lay on the sofa winds of knowledge from the divine blew upon him.. However some theology of Manichaeism is the same to Baha’i. Call me a cynic and all due respect to Baha'u'llah your prophet. But reason is getting the better of me.
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Reason? Come on now. I have to ask you why is this important to you? Do you have an agenda that will eventually surface? The history is written by many, not just Baha'i historians. There doesn't seem to be any reference by anybody to Manichaeism in the history of Baha'u'llah. Baha'u'llah did not invent the message He has shared with the world, no more than Christ did, or Moses did, or Muhammed did. It was imbued to Him by God, Allah, Yaweh, etc.

The word "reason" means a rational motive for a belief or action. Simply because you think it, doesn't make it rational. Statements that begin with "I think...", "I feel..." and/or "I believe" are probably one of the most common indicators that whoever is making the statement has their mind closed and have already made a decision on what little information they possess.

Most of the religions of God, and I am not suggesting that Manichaeism is a religion of God that was founded by a Manifestation, (from what I read in Wikipedia, it would seem to be just another Christian sect) have very significant similarities, as they should. If the message of God is progressive, as our rational mind should agree with, and it is, then each Messenger would build on the message of the past by reiterating the previous message and adding the newest additions so that society can advance.

If there is an agenda here, Postmaster, please come forth with it. If there isn't an agenda, then I must warn you, you sound like a broken record, that keeps repeating some insignificant statement over and over and over. I hope I have cleared this up for you. Please don't respond with the same statement you've been making. What's the point? If that is your stand, then so be it.

Mick
 
Postmaster, I also don't know what you're complaining about!

I--and I think other Baha'is, too--have already pointed out to you that the Baha'i Faith:
  1. does not appear to address Manicheism,
  2. has no teachings about it that I've ever seen (in 34 years as a Baha'i), and also that
  3. the Baha'i Faith does have an explicit short list of Divine Messengers since Gautama Buddha, and Mani is not on that list! Thus, so far as I understand this, there is no chance that Mani, too, was such a Messenger. In addition, we see certain other religious groups as essesntially derivative of already-existing great religions, so that Sikhism and Taoism (for example) similarly don't qualify as separate independant religions on their own. Manicheism apparently also fits this description, as Brian indicated.

So like Brian, I too don't know what more you want us to say.

We're well aware that the spiritual teachings of the great religions are all extremely similar, so it's no particular surprise that Mani--or anybody else--might echo these same concepts.

Finally, as always, we're most happy to answer any sincere question about the Baha'i Faith!

But like it or not, in the case of this particular question, we've already said essentially all we can say about it. . . .

Peace,

Bruce
 
And speaking of Baha'u'llah's heritage, He was descended from Abraham by two of His three wives: Sarah and Keturah!

I've also heard it asserted that He was a descendant of ancient Persian kings, but have no personal knowledge of this.

(And the Bab, for the record, was descended from Abraham's third wife, Hagar, through Muhammad.)

Regards,

Bruce
 
Postmaster, it would be great to respect the idea of discussion here - at the moment it seems like you're simply finger pointing.
 
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