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Evangelism today often invokes the image of a person in a cheap suit waving a Bible and ranting at passersby, or perhaps a knock on your door in mid-afternoon just when the baby is trying to nap. But Christians are called to spread the good news in Christ, a seemingly more and more difficult job in our religiously diverse and secular world.

What does evangelism mean to you?

Are Christians still called to spread the Gospel?

Is evangelism inescapably now associated with a conservative form of Christianity?

How, if at all, do you incorporate evangelism into your life?
 
Namaste Luna...I think you hit the nail on the head and then drove it till it was countersunk..

1a) I've never been much of an evangelism...almost makes me feel dirty being in somebody's face spreding the good news...for exactly the reasons you portrayed....

1b) but...I actually enjoy those door knockers...expands my horizons...of course they don't enjoy my door...and as far as the tent shows go...quite entertaining...

2) but...at the same time it feels like one is not doing ones part by not spreading the word in some way shape or form and I've found anytime I stick my neck out and welcome someone to church or offer to sit and pray, or sit and listen, it is quite appreciated...and I've gained some new friends...

3) I don't think so....associated yes...inescable no...I think the biggest issue with it today is the majority aren't out trying to spread the good news to non-believers...the goal is to move christians from one church to another...you guys got it all wrong...check this out...generalization I know...I'm not talking the missionaries headed out, or the American Indians I've seen traveling to other reservations...but the typical door knocker...seems they are trained to go after other flocks..

4) so.. my main method of evangelizement....be the change you wish to see in the world...walk the walk...be the example...force people to ask why...how can you remain calm in this situation...why don't you get a lawyer and sue...why do you let that happen to you....

As there are no coincidences check out Nic Askew's interview with the new English 'Apprentice' http://www.monday9am.co.uk/ (nic is a fellow zaadzter..)
 
I'm torn about evangelism also. Clearly the Scriptures tell us to go into the highways and byways and preach the Gospel to every creature. Yet it can be a harrowing experience.

I've been out with a street preacher before on a boardwalk at the beach. He was of the hellfire and damnation type and we actually had water balloons tossed at us. When I got up to try, I tempered the message with love, I'm not much of a hellfire damnation guy. many didn't like us, but a few actualluy listened and we led some to Christ, so i guess it was worth it.

I've also been door knocking. Met just about every person in the book. I was out one time with my wife and another young girl from the church. Now my wife and the girl is of asian descent and when we knocked on this lady's door she told us she was an athiest. She looked at me and said that i should be ashamed of myself. And I asked her, whatever do you mean? She said, how dare you bring that filth around here. And I looked around and the only ones she could be referring to were my wife and the girl. Turns out this lady was a bit of a racist and considered anyone not of American WASP to be lower than dogs. Evidently, she was particularly upset because her son happened to marry a Mexican. There was no use trying to reason with her. So we bid farewell.

Another time, I really goofed. I was with one of the fellas from the church finishing canvassing an area we started the previous week. The houses all looked pretty much the same and we couldn't remember if we visited this particular house. We didn't want to pass up an opportunity for someone to hear the Gospel, so i said, what harm could come of it if we knocked on the door again. now mind you, this was about 7pm and it was beginning to get dark. We knocked on the door and a lady answered. We introduced ourselves and she immediately recognized us as having been there the previously. We apologized and told her that we didn't remember having knocked on her door before. Then she complained that we scared her four year old daughter off and that she was having a hard time as it was trying to get her children to bed without some strangers coming around at night. we profusely apologised again and left right away, thinking that while we made a mistake, we at least departed amicably.

A little while later, while on another street, we were finishing up at one house when we heard a voice down the street calling out to us asking of we were from _________(our church). We said yes. then he asked if we had a license to do what we were doing. that what we were doing was illegal. My partner and I looked at each other and shrugged no. Then he asked for our ID (which we didn't give). but he told us that he is the husband of the women we visited and that he called the police on us and that they were on their way. that we shouldn't be out disturbing the peace and scaring little children. We again apologised, but he was fairly pissed at us and wanted us to leave. So we drove off. There was never any police, though.

OK, maybe our timing and memory were wrong. I'd admit that in this day and age one cannot be too careful about strangers. Can't say I blame them. So for one, i don't go out unless it's light outside and i don't repeat a door too soon.

But we had every right to do what we were doing, btw. We should have used a bit more tact, though I thought all things considered, we did apologise. After talking to a retired sheriff who is a member of our church, we learned that 1) we don't need a license 2) we don't need to show our ID 3) the police are not going to respond because we did nothing illegal 4) unless there were no trespassing or no solicitation signs, we could knock on doors. (And btw, we didn't stop doing what we were doing because the guy told us to, we merely drove to a different spot and resumed our visitation).

I've had doors slammed in my face. Gotten into arguments without meaning to. But every once and a while someone would come to the Lord. So in my view, if we can get some people to come to ythe Lord, then I think the effort it worth it. How else are people supposed to find out?

I'm open to suggestions about how we can share our faith without being offensive. I know there are folks here on this forum that have been on both sides of the door. What can we as Christian do to be more effective in getting the Word out?

ETA: I've read your suggestions about walking the walk,and I understand that, but at some point, there needs to be the verbal testamony for the understanding God's plan of salvation. i don't think people are that intiutive to grasp the concepts by the life testamony alone.
 
Namaste Dondi, gotta love it!!

Great stories and I expect like all 'sales' it is a numbers game takes a whole lot of no's to get a few yeses...and if you are moving them closer to finding their path to spirit the more power to ya!

Like I said, I love the discussions, tis like having CR in on your couch, the Baptists, the Mormons, the Jehovah's Witnesses...I love discussing the bible and learning the intracies...of course for me, tisn't me slamming the door, tis them looking at their watches saying, "Uh, we gotta go, we have an appointment", and me, "Just one more question, and can you come back after you look the other stuff up?"

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it...it just isn't in my current paradigm.

I believe you are concerned for your fellow man (well there is proof in that in you are dedicating your time to hit the streets), and treat those who don't want to listen with respect, probably most do. But now that I've got you here, my question lies in....is your goal to bring people to Jesus, to help them find G-d....or is it to bring them to your church? ie if you knock on someones door and they say, oh thank you but I'm saved, I go to ___________. How do you end it, where do you go from there....is there any interest in switching them from coke to pepsi? Or are you just looking for those who haven't found Jesus?

Now I guess that gets me to the real crux of my problem. While I would like folks to explore and find their path to spirit, to understand and know that they have power within them far greater than all this material stuff they normally give glory to... I really don't ever see me trying to convert anyone from Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, Janism, Taoism, or most anything else...I'd like very much to learn more about their beliefs and pracitices...and exchange information, discuss similarities and differences between Chrisitanity and whatever path they are on. But I love that they found G-d in their way...
 
lunamoth said:
Evangelism today often invokes the image of a person in a cheap suit waving a Bible and ranting at passersby, or perhaps a knock on your door in mid-afternoon just when the baby is trying to nap. But Christians are called to spread the good news in Christ, a seemingly more and more difficult job in our religiously diverse and secular world.

What does evangelism mean to you?

Are Christians still called to spread the Gospel?

Is evangelism inescapably now associated with a conservative form of Christianity?

How, if at all, do you incorporate evangelism into your life?

In my opinion, Evangelism is a two part process, and does not require one to get up in front of hundreds of strangers to do it.

Part one, is the example one sets. This often causes curiosity of others. What do you have that the other sees, and wants? So they hedge around or some simply come out and ask.

Part two, is telling your story, of how your life has changed. Then present the promise made to you and assure that the same promise is available to them.

No sugar coating. No quick fixes. Just the truth of what it has done for you, and how your life has changed.

Evangelism begins with a willing speaker, and a willing listener, and is most effective one on one.

my thoughts

v/r

Q
 
Hi, and Peace to All Here--

I rarely find a post wherein all I want to say is "Amen", but "Amen" to Q's response--and thanks for asking the good question in the first place, lunamoth!

InPeace,
InLove
 
InLove said:
Hi, and Peace to All Here--

I rarely find a post wherein all I want to say is "Amen", but "Amen" to Q's response--and thanks for asking the good question in the first place, lunamoth!

InPeace,
InLove

Hi Inlove, So good to see you posting. :) Hope all is going well. I think you are a wonderful example of Christian evangelism, spreading the good news of His love.

luna
 
InLove said:
Hi, and Peace to All Here--

I rarely find a post wherein all I want to say is "Amen", but "Amen" to Q's response--and thanks for asking the good question in the first place, lunamoth!

InPeace,
InLove

Welcome back InLove. ;)
 
To evangelize is to preach the gospel, or good news, to convert hearers to Christianity
Yes! Evangelism, preaching of the good news of God’s Kingdom, is the underpinning of Christianity. It is the mark, past and present, of God’s people.
As YOU go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of the heavens has drawn near. matthew 10;7
If preaching of Kingdom good news is the groundwork of Christianity, then all early Christians should have been evangelizers. Were they? Yes! answers history. Note what these reference books state about first-century Christians:​
"Any and all Christians were, in those days, ‘missionaries.’"—History of Western Civilization.
"This first mission activity shows that the early mission force was by no means limited to the Apostles. Rather, the whole Christian community was collectively involved."—New Catholic Encyclopedia.
"A desire to bear testimony to his faith and a way of life is an expected characteristic of each Christian."—Encyclopedia Americana.
 
mee said:
To evangelize is to preach the gospel, or good news, to convert hearers to Christianity
Yes! Evangelism, preaching of the good news of God’s Kingdom, is the underpinning of Christianity. It is the mark, past and present, of God’s people.
As YOU go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of the heavens has drawn near. matthew 10;7
If preaching of Kingdom good news is the groundwork of Christianity, then all early Christians should have been evangelizers. Were they? Yes! answers history. Note what these reference books state about first-century Christians:​
"Any and all Christians were, in those days, ‘missionaries.’"—History of Western Civilization.
"This first mission activity shows that the early mission force was by no means limited to the Apostles. Rather, the whole Christian community was collectively involved."—New Catholic Encyclopedia.
"A desire to bear testimony to his faith and a way of life is an expected characteristic of each Christian."—Encyclopedia Americana.

No, it isn't Mee. It is a gentle breeze in the ear of one who wants to know the song of salvation. That is why a true evangelist wins hearts and souls to God, and the others win only disdain and contempt for the very name of Christ.

This is proven over and over again. In fact it is Biblical. We were taught this in the OT (of all places), but we forever ignore what the Bible teaches concerning nuances. And man is a being subject to the influence of nuances. You of all people should know that, my friend...

v/r

Q
 
lunamoth said:
What does evangelism mean to you?

Are Christians still called to spread the Gospel?

Is evangelism inescapably now associated with a conservative form of Christianity?

How, if at all, do you incorporate evangelism into your life?

Evangelism means two different things in my book. The first is literally going out and preaching the gospel to people- this is what many people find offensive. I'm a bit of an oddity because, like Wil, I like people knocking on my door- provided I'm not five minutes from running out of it to work, or already in my pjs. But I like to share with them, to talk with them. So far, they all end up coming up with excuses to get the heck out of my house once they realize I'm not about to be converted and I'm pretty content as I am. And yes, most of what I've experienced is of the switching from coke to pepsi variety. Nice metaphor, Wil.

But evangelism literally means spreading the good news. So my second meaning for me is spreading the Good News about Jesus- His message, salvation, love. And I believe in doing this through my life, my actions, and my attitude. Jesus Himself calls us to do things- to feed people, heal them, visit them when they are in prison, to spread peace and love, to transform ourselves so that we might be lights unto the world, cities on a hill. None of that is accomplished, in my honest opinion, by simply trying to get butts in the seats of churches or by getting people to say a prayer-- this isn't salvation. The Spaniards, upon conquering indigenous people in the Americas, baptized thousands at a time- at the threat of near slavery, disease, and gunpoint. Is that salvation? Is it salvation when someone says a prayer accepting Christ without knowing the depth to which they are going to have to commit themselves, often under emotional and mental duress of worrying about eternal damnation? For me, we are called to spread the Good News, and if we follow the example of Jesus, that means mostly helping people, and teaching in simple terms and with love to those who want to listen. We are called to make disciples. This is not the same thing as converts. To win a convert, you need only to meet someone briefly, say a prayer with them, and get them to go to a church. To make a disciple, you have to live for a while with someone, to teach by example, to discuss as they ask and seek, to be supportive, to be a friend. Even Jesus only had twelve disciples, so I think this speaks to the depth of relationship we are each called to when we are called to make disciples of all nations.

I do believe we're called to spread the Gospel. I think we're called to live it first, and if we must (or are asked to), preach with words. I know many, many atheists and agnostics who are completely turned off to religion and God because of their experiences of feeling attacked by evangelists. I also know a few who have had very deep conversations with me about God and my faith, their own fears, and have opened up to the possibility of beginning a personal search for God. They didn't do this because they knew I was a Christian, or what church I am going to, or because I act religious. They did it because they wondered, and I quote some direct questions I've heard: How can I be so happy when I know about how bad off the world is? How do I make it through hard times and not fall apart? Why do I love people, plants, animals- all beings so much? And so forth. And I'm no saint, so there is hope by spreading the Gospel through actions. Trust me, I mess up plenty and sin plenty. But I've been told I just seem to love others and life more than most, and this seems to be enough to open the door...

I think the term "evangelism" is tied up with conservative Christianity. So I just don't use the term. I refer to the first meaning with the term evangelism, and I think of what I do as pretty much just trying to live a Christ-like life to the best of my ability.

Q pretty much nailed it on the head for what I do. I just try to live a life in which I love God and love others. Periodically, someone asks me about it. Then I share my personal story about my relationship with Jesus and God, and what it does for me and to me- the transformation of myself. I'm honest about my struggles, and weaknesses, and the many things I just don't know or understand. I'm honest about the difficulties I find in trying to follow Christ. I don't really share doctrine or invite them to a church or anything of the sort. Everyone knows about the Bible and there's a church on every block, and I think everyone has to find their own denomination that's the right "fit" anyway, hopefully through personal exploration. For people who become long-time friends, we eventually get into conversations about the particulars- my beliefs about this or that. But I really try to keep that out of the Gospel message, which I believe is not about beliefs or doctrine or my theories about God, but rather about the gift of grace through Jesus, the love of God, and the message to love others.
 
I'm about as receptive to door-knockers as I am to any other kind of uninvited salesman. I don't care if you're selling Jesus or a vacuum cleaner, don't call me and don't come to my house.

Here's a tip for JW's: You guys have a language that you all use when you're talking to each other about the "Truth." Watchtower-ese, or something. Nobody else outside the organization understands this language! If you want to reach more people try to explain things in terms and language that are commonplace.

BTW, I have a coworker who is JW. Eric is a prince of a person, a real honest, hard working, smart, funny help anyone, friendly guy. He's made more of a positive impact on me just by being himself than any overt preaching he could have done. And...he knows how to explain stuff in ordinary language.

Chris
 
China Cat Sunflower said:
I'm about as receptive to door-knockers as I am to any other kind of uninvited salesman. I don't care if you're selling Jesus or a vacuum cleaner, don't call me and don't come to my house.

Here's a tip for JW's: You guys have a language that you all use when you're talking to each other about the "Truth." Watchtower-ese, or something. Nobody else outside the organization understands this language! If you want to reach more people try to explain things in terms and language that are commonplace.

BTW, I have a coworker who is JW. Eric is a prince of a person, a real honest, hard working, smart, funny help anyone, friendly guy. He's made more of a positive impact on me just by being himself than any overt preaching he could have done. And...he knows how to explain stuff in ordinary language.

Chris

I rest my case.
 
path_of_one said:
Evangelism means two different things in my book. The first is literally going out and preaching the gospel to people- this is what many people find offensive. I'm a bit of an oddity because, like Wil, I like people knocking on my door- provided I'm not five minutes from running out of it to work, or already in my pjs. But I like to share with them, to talk with them. So far, they all end up coming up with excuses to get the heck out of my house once they realize I'm not about to be converted and I'm pretty content as I am. And yes, most of what I've experienced is of the switching from coke to pepsi variety. Nice metaphor, Wil.

But evangelism literally means spreading the good news. So my second meaning for me is spreading the Good News about Jesus- His message, salvation, love. And I believe in doing this through my life, my actions, and my attitude. Jesus Himself calls us to do things- to feed people, heal them, visit them when they are in prison, to spread peace and love, to transform ourselves so that we might be lights unto the world, cities on a hill. None of that is accomplished, in my honest opinion, by simply trying to get butts in the seats of churches or by getting people to say a prayer-- this isn't salvation. The Spaniards, upon conquering indigenous people in the Americas, baptized thousands at a time- at the threat of near slavery, disease, and gunpoint. Is that salvation? Is it salvation when someone says a prayer accepting Christ without knowing the depth to which they are going to have to commit themselves, often under emotional and mental duress of worrying about eternal damnation? For me, we are called to spread the Good News, and if we follow the example of Jesus, that means mostly helping people, and teaching in simple terms and with love to those who want to listen. We are called to make disciples. This is not the same thing as converts. To win a convert, you need only to meet someone briefly, say a prayer with them, and get them to go to a church. To make a disciple, you have to live for a while with someone, to teach by example, to discuss as they ask and seek, to be supportive, to be a friend. Even Jesus only had twelve disciples, so I think this speaks to the depth of relationship we are each called to when we are called to make disciples of all nations.

I do believe we're called to spread the Gospel. I think we're called to live it first, and if we must (or are asked to), preach with words. I know many, many atheists and agnostics who are completely turned off to religion and God because of their experiences of feeling attacked by evangelists. I also know a few who have had very deep conversations with me about God and my faith, their own fears, and have opened up to the possibility of beginning a personal search for God. They didn't do this because they knew I was a Christian, or what church I am going to, or because I act religious. They did it because they wondered, and I quote some direct questions I've heard: How can I be so happy when I know about how bad off the world is? How do I make it through hard times and not fall apart? Why do I love people, plants, animals- all beings so much? And so forth. And I'm no saint, so there is hope by spreading the Gospel through actions. Trust me, I mess up plenty and sin plenty. But I've been told I just seem to love others and life more than most, and this seems to be enough to open the door...

I think the term "evangelism" is tied up with conservative Christianity. So I just don't use the term. I refer to the first meaning with the term evangelism, and I think of what I do as pretty much just trying to live a Christ-like life to the best of my ability.

Q pretty much nailed it on the head for what I do. I just try to live a life in which I love God and love others. Periodically, someone asks me about it. Then I share my personal story about my relationship with Jesus and God, and what it does for me and to me- the transformation of myself. I'm honest about my struggles, and weaknesses, and the many things I just don't know or understand. I'm honest about the difficulties I find in trying to follow Christ. I don't really share doctrine or invite them to a church or anything of the sort. Everyone knows about the Bible and there's a church on every block, and I think everyone has to find their own denomination that's the right "fit" anyway, hopefully through personal exploration. For people who become long-time friends, we eventually get into conversations about the particulars- my beliefs about this or that. But I really try to keep that out of the Gospel message, which I believe is not about beliefs or doctrine or my theories about God, but rather about the gift of grace through Jesus, the love of God, and the message to love others.

Exactly. They want to know what makes you tick. You tell them where you are coming from. Johnny Appleseed. It works, better than any tv show.
 
wil said:
Namaste Dondi, gotta love it!!

Great stories and I expect like all 'sales' it is a numbers game takes a whole lot of no's to get a few yeses...and if you are moving them closer to finding their path to spirit the more power to ya!

Like I said, I love the discussions, tis like having CR in on your couch, the Baptists, the Mormons, the Jehovah's Witnesses...I love discussing the bible and learning the intracies...of course for me, tisn't me slamming the door, tis them looking at their watches saying, "Uh, we gotta go, we have an appointment", and me, "Just one more question, and can you come back after you look the other stuff up?"

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it...it just isn't in my current paradigm.

I believe you are concerned for your fellow man (well there is proof in that in you are dedicating your time to hit the streets), and treat those who don't want to listen with respect, probably most do. But now that I've got you here, my question lies in....is your goal to bring people to Jesus, to help them find G-d....or is it to bring them to your church? ie if you knock on someones door and they say, oh thank you but I'm saved, I go to ___________. How do you end it, where do you go from there....is there any interest in switching them from coke to pepsi? Or are you just looking for those who haven't found Jesus?

Now I guess that gets me to the real crux of my problem. While I would like folks to explore and find their path to spirit, to understand and know that they have power within them far greater than all this material stuff they normally give glory to... I really don't ever see me trying to convert anyone from Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, Janism, Taoism, or most anything else...I'd like very much to learn more about their beliefs and pracitices...and exchange information, discuss similarities and differences between Chrisitanity and whatever path they are on. But I love that they found G-d in their way...

Absolutely not. Our intention is primarily to show the Gospel and give them an opprtunity to come to God through Jesus Christ. We aren't out to up our numbers in the least. But if one doesn't have a chruch home, we certainly invite them to come visit ours. We not out to change anyone's religion or church, though we openly welcome everyone to visit our church with no pressure. And it doesn't even matter what religion they are. I don't care if the person attends the Church of the Cloven Hooves of Satan's Disciples, we just want people to know that God is real and available for them and present Jesus as Saviour. We're mostly looking for lost souls who never have known God. We simply encourage them to seek God where they are if they are not interested in changing churches. No pressure at all. We are just the messenger boys. We let God's Spirit convince them what they need to do. His Word shall not return void.
 
path_of_one said:
Evangelism means two different things in my book. The first is literally going out and preaching the gospel to people- this is what many people find offensive. I'm a bit of an oddity because, like Wil, I like people knocking on my door- provided I'm not five minutes from running out of it to work, or already in my pjs. But I like to share with them, to talk with them. So far, they all end up coming up with excuses to get the heck out of my house once they realize I'm not about to be converted and I'm pretty content as I am. And yes, most of what I've experienced is of the switching from coke to pepsi variety. Nice metaphor, Wil.

But evangelism literally means spreading the good news. So my second meaning for me is spreading the Good News about Jesus- His message, salvation, love. And I believe in doing this through my life, my actions, and my attitude. Jesus Himself calls us to do things- to feed people, heal them, visit them when they are in prison, to spread peace and love, to transform ourselves so that we might be lights unto the world, cities on a hill. None of that is accomplished, in my honest opinion, by simply trying to get butts in the seats of churches or by getting people to say a prayer-- this isn't salvation. The Spaniards, upon conquering indigenous people in the Americas, baptized thousands at a time- at the threat of near slavery, disease, and gunpoint. Is that salvation? Is it salvation when someone says a prayer accepting Christ without knowing the depth to which they are going to have to commit themselves, often under emotional and mental duress of worrying about eternal damnation? For me, we are called to spread the Good News, and if we follow the example of Jesus, that means mostly helping people, and teaching in simple terms and with love to those who want to listen. We are called to make disciples. This is not the same thing as converts. To win a convert, you need only to meet someone briefly, say a prayer with them, and get them to go to a church. To make a disciple, you have to live for a while with someone, to teach by example, to discuss as they ask and seek, to be supportive, to be a friend. Even Jesus only had twelve disciples, so I think this speaks to the depth of relationship we are each called to when we are called to make disciples of all nations.

I do believe we're called to spread the Gospel. I think we're called to live it first, and if we must (or are asked to), preach with words. I know many, many atheists and agnostics who are completely turned off to religion and God because of their experiences of feeling attacked by evangelists. I also know a few who have had very deep conversations with me about God and my faith, their own fears, and have opened up to the possibility of beginning a personal search for God. They didn't do this because they knew I was a Christian, or what church I am going to, or because I act religious. They did it because they wondered, and I quote some direct questions I've heard: How can I be so happy when I know about how bad off the world is? How do I make it through hard times and not fall apart? Why do I love people, plants, animals- all beings so much? And so forth. And I'm no saint, so there is hope by spreading the Gospel through actions. Trust me, I mess up plenty and sin plenty. But I've been told I just seem to love others and life more than most, and this seems to be enough to open the door...

I think the term "evangelism" is tied up with conservative Christianity. So I just don't use the term. I refer to the first meaning with the term evangelism, and I think of what I do as pretty much just trying to live a Christ-like life to the best of my ability.

Q pretty much nailed it on the head for what I do. I just try to live a life in which I love God and love others. Periodically, someone asks me about it. Then I share my personal story about my relationship with Jesus and God, and what it does for me and to me- the transformation of myself. I'm honest about my struggles, and weaknesses, and the many things I just don't know or understand. I'm honest about the difficulties I find in trying to follow Christ. I don't really share doctrine or invite them to a church or anything of the sort. Everyone knows about the Bible and there's a church on every block, and I think everyone has to find their own denomination that's the right "fit" anyway, hopefully through personal exploration. For people who become long-time friends, we eventually get into conversations about the particulars- my beliefs about this or that. But I really try to keep that out of the Gospel message, which I believe is not about beliefs or doctrine or my theories about God, but rather about the gift of grace through Jesus, the love of God, and the message to love others.

Great post, pathofone. Let me clarify something about door-knocking. For me, when we present the Gospel, it is a starting point. I fond that many never heard of the concept of jesus dying for their sins. the just haven't been "churched". Or if they have, their church has not presented the Good News in a way applicable to their lives. they go to church to sit in the pews and perform various rituals and motions of singing and praying. Nothing wrong with rituals, but many lack understanding of what those rituals really entail. I don't believe that saying merely saying a simple prayer is going to radically change one's life, but those we contact we should be encouraged to seek a deeper sense of God and learn from Himthrough the scriptures. I'm convinced that God doesn't want to stop at "salvation", but wants to transform the person to the image of His Son. And that simply takes time.
 
Dondi said:
Absolutely not. Our intention is primarily to show the Gospel and give them an opprtunity to come to God through Jesus Christ. We aren't out to up our numbers in the least. But if one doesn't have a chruch home, we certainly invite them to come visit ours. We not out to change anyone's religion or church, though we openly welcome everyone to visit our church with no pressure. And it doesn't even matter what religion they are. I don't care if the person attends the Church of the Cloven Hooves of Satan's Disciples, we just want people to know that God is real and available for them and present Jesus as Saviour. We're mostly looking for lost souls who never have known God. We simply encourage them to seek God where they are if they are not interested in changing churches. No pressure at all. We are just the messenger boys. We let God's Spirit convince them what they need to do. His Word shall not return void.

That is a fact, Jack...er Dondi:eek: (sorry)
 
Dondi said:
Absolutely not. ... No pressure at all. ...
Awesome, from your post I thought as much...just didn't know how you handled it.

I gotta admit years ago I used to treat the door to door missionaries with the same respect as a telemarketer....However, I treat telemarketers much better today as well...gotta love growth..
 
wil said:
Awesome, from your post I thought as much...just didn't know how you handled it.

I gotta admit years ago I used to treat the door to door missionaries with the same respect as a telemarketer....However, I treat telemarketers much better today as well...gotta love growth..

If I came to your door, wil, would you listen?
 
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