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True, but what you teach concerning the bible, is FALSE. quote]
matthew 5;5 Jesus said the earth and listening to Jesus is the way to go .
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True, but what you teach concerning the bible, is FALSE. quote]
matthew 5;5 Jesus said the earth and listening to Jesus is the way to go .
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They also wonder at your mixing with those not of your "flock", when your own leaders have forbidden such "un guided" contact.
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loli think i have already mentioned it before but i will say it again
talking to all people about the promises in the bible is what all Jehovahs witnesses do , regardless of what religion those people belong too.
but taking on board their beliefs is another thing.
sticking to the bible and what it teaches is the way for all Jehovahs people .
but we are not like people who keep our beliefs to ourselves we give it outits good to share .
the misconstruing of the Bible is the equivelent of leading "children" astray. When one does that, they are either ignorant of the truth, or deliberate in misleading those who are faithful and new, or considering becoming faithful. quote]
i agree the misconstruing of the bible is leading people astray and its been going on for centuries .
and many have got to believe the lie.
and that is the truth of it , the trinity is not a bible teaching but it has misled many.
Can't help but love ya for tryin', mee.PSALM 83;18 IN SPANISH Gods name is Jehova
para que la gente sepa que tú, cuyo nombre es Jehová,
tú solo eres el Altísimo sobre toda la tierra.
Can't help but love ya for tryin', mee.
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lovers of Jehovah are looking ahead to the fulfillment of the Model Prayer taught by Jesus Christ: "Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth." (Matt. 6:9, 10)
Further, persons walking in Jehovah’s name also look forward to the day when everyone alive will respect God’s most holy name.![]()
'In the Heavens' mee, what does that mean to you. In Jesus time it appears they were looking to the sky, that the heavens were above the clouds.
Now I don't believe Jesus was referring to that, but how do you interpret it?
matthew 6;9 -10 one thing is for sure and that is ...... No longer is there any opposition to Gods purpose going on in the heavens , thats because the rebels have been cast out of heaven . and those rebels are satan and his demons , and they were cast out of heaven when Jesus was given great aurthority DANIEL 7;13-14 REVELATION 12;9 And it was in 1914 when that happened.'In the Heavens' mee, what does that mean to you. In Jesus time it appears they were looking to the sky, that the heavens were above the clouds.
Now I don't believe Jesus was referring to that, but how do you interpret it?
Thats the tragedy of it wil .. The watchtower doesnt allow them to interpret anything... they arent allowed to use the minds that God gave them. They have to rely on the watchtower to interpret for them.
Namaste mee,matthew 6;9 -10 one thing is for sure and that is ...... No longer is there any opposition to Gods purpose going on in the heavens , thats because the rebels have been cast out of heaven ....yes Gods HEAVENLY kingdom goverment is now well established Daniel 2;44 and those doing Gods will in the heavens are his FAITHFUL angels. no opposers up there now , they are all down here as is plain to see.
Namaste mee,
see that is what I am asking. What is Heaven? According to JW or according to mee, what is heaven and if a place where??
You say 'up' there, and 'down' here. Much like folks used to think heaven was above the clouds and hell was in the earth (really down there).
But didn't Jesus say look neither high nor low?
Didn't the first cosmonaut happily report, well no heaven up here?
We've got satellites and telescopes looking billions of light years away. Identifying potentially habitable or habitted planets in our universe.
What is Heaven me? According to your or JW understandings of the scriptures where is, what is this Kingdom where Jesus now rules with these faithful angels?
Heaven
Definition:
The dwelling place of Jehovah God and of faithful spirit creatures; a realm invisible to human eyes. The Bible also uses the term "heaven(s)" in a variety of other senses; for example: to represent God himself, his organization of faithful spirit creatures, a position of divine favor, the physical universe apart from the earth, the expanse surrounding planet Earth, human governments under Satan’s domination, and the righteous new heavenly government in which Jesus Christ with his joint heirs are empowered by Jehovah to rule.
think about 2 peter 3;13Namaste mee,
It could just be me but has anyone mentioned your affiinity to use such large fonts is disconcerting? And again it could just be me, but increasing the size does not increase the validity, as a matter of fact for me it does just the opposite, it's like the little kid at the swimming pool for the nth time screaming mommy, mommy look at me....
But thanks for the reply. Let's break it down.
according to your definition...(I don't really mean these are your words, they aren't are they, but a definition that has been provided for you that you've provided for us?)[/left]
Heaven =God himself Heaven =his organization of faithful spirit creatures Heaven =a position of divine favor Heaven =the physical universe apart from the earth Heaven =human governments under Satan’s domination Heaven =the righteous new heavenly government in which Jesus Christ with his joint heirs are empowered by Jehovah to rule Heaven =The dwelling place of Jehovah GodNow I gotta tell ya, I've got to take some time to contemplate but I'm really confused about number 5 you can start by explaining that one.
And it is invisible to human eyes. And so the 144,000 will never see it? No one will ever see it. And Jesus, the human son of G!d, not G!d incarnate on earth, invisible to him as well?
Still confused at your conjecture. Is Jesus ruling heaven or is the devil? Is the devil ruling earth and are you saying now earth is heaven?think about 2 peter 3;13
The present "heavens" of this old world are wicked and are doomed to pass away. Why? Because Satan the Devil and his demons are "the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places," the "heavens" of this evil world.—Eph. 6:12. yes ,as ...1 john 5;19 ....says, the whole world is in the power of the wicked one .
satan cannot be ruling the heavens because Jesus cast him out in 1914, heavens in the bible can some times refer to rulership, that is why in 2 peter 3;13 it mentions NEW HEAVENS, the rulership now on the earth is on the way out as Daniel 2;44 informs us .Still confused at your conjecture. Is Jesus ruling heaven or is the devil? Is the devil ruling earth and are you saying now earth is heaven?
I sure would appreciate it if you'd adjust your font to normal size.
Still where does it say that Heaven is a human gov't under Satan's dominion??Still confused at your conjecture. Is Jesus ruling heaven or is the devil? Is the devil ruling earth and are you saying now earth is heaven?
I sure would appreciate it if you'd adjust your font to normal size.
Still where does it say that Heaven is a human gov't under Satan's dominion??
If you go to your settings you can vary the screen display of your computer so you may read all easier, rather than varying the font.