Christs Presence

[mee]

1864 "the SIGN of THY presence" The Emphatic Diaglott​

(J21), by Benjamin Wilson,​

New York and London.

1897 "the sign of thy presence" The Emphasised Bible,
by J. B. Rotherham,
Cincinnati. ​

1903 "the signal of Your presence" The Holy Bible in Modern​

English, by F. Fenton, London. ​

1950 "the sign of your presence" New World Translation of​

the Christian Greek
Scriptures, Brooklyn. ​

The Greek noun pa·rou·si´a literally means a "being alongside," the expression being drawn from the preposition pa·ra´ (alongside) and ou·si´a (a "being"). The word pa·rou·si´a occurs 24 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures, namely, in Mt 24:3, 27, 37, 39; 1Co 15:23; 16:17; 2Co 7:6, 7; 10:10; Php 1:26; 2:12; 1Th 2:19; 3:13; 4:15; 5:23; 2Th 2:1, 8, 9; Jas 5:7, 8; 2Pe 1:16; 3:4, 12; 1Jo 2:28. In these 24 places the New World Translation renders pa·rou·si´a as "presence."



the word pa·rou·si´a refers to the royal presence of Jesus Christ since his enthronement(IN 1914) as King in the last days of this system of things.


yes Jesus is a reigning king DANIEL 7; 13;14 1914 WAS THE START OF THE LAST DAYS .

Christs Presence (Parousia)​

Mt 24:3—Gr., τὸ σημει̃ον τη̃ς ση̃ς παρουσίας​

 

[mee]

neither the English word ‘coming’ nor the Latin ‘advent’ is the best representative of the original.

 

[mee]

Jesus’ second coming or presence is not seen with the literal eyes, but with the eyes of understanding.—Eph. 1:18.

 

[Bishadi]

Jesus’ second coming or presence is not seen with the literal eyes, but with the eyes of understanding.—Eph. 1:18.

Could not agree with you any better than that!

Understanding​

Life​

Preface

This has been written for the period of 3/20/08- 3/27/08. This paper is not complete in the sense of covering each and every question a person could have on this subject. So even in this imperfect condition, this summary offers a basis of knowledge to assist in understanding. Please accept this information simply for knowledge and allow yourself the patience to read through and apply what is being conveyed.

This paper contradicts many existing paradigm or accepted forms of thought. There will be many items included that will place into question many of the preferred models of understanding. The intent to conform or remain complacent to existing laws or incomplete evidence is not appropriate when pursuing the truth. The framework is only for one purpose and that is to offer a basis that each person can understand life with understanding. Each reference to terms and the sciences behind the terms are substantiated although in the full context of this paper not peer reviewed. A set of equations representing a theory seems like the only real way to convey a scientific framework but if the framework also combines each branch of knowledge, then there are a whole group of questions to address that are far more important. This summary is for the human experience substantiated by each branch of knowledge. The last time a mathematical theorem was released to comply to the intellectual community the end result created more negatives (the atom bomb) for the earth than benefited the existence of life.

To reach the conclusions herein are from cross referencing many frames of information. In the early years of study, there was an initial idea that retaining and learning existing theorems and math would one day offer a true understanding but after many tries, the answers never worked. So a return to base constituents or the base building blocks of information offered a method to see what was really happening. A complete change to how atoms and energy associate began to unfold. It appears that an analogy shared within quite a few of the really old teaching of knowledge had been tapping on the unifying framework all along. This framework is not unique other than how it is brought together.

Unfortunately there is no single form of religion or science that currently supports this information with complete satisfaction. From each, there are rules and laws that discount the framework but by retaining a focus on ‘life’ and what it is, as far as how it exists, in a literal form, is what revealed the truth. And with intent to just understand, a scope unfolded that combined each of these branches beautifully.

Purpose

The purpose of this paper is to offer a framework of knowledge that can offer any reasoned person the ability to understand. .

This is simply to share knowledge as a summary of a set of literature that is improving each day, Understanding! The material knowledge in Understanding ranges from the origins of life through to how the brain works. The amount of material observed to render these conclusions can be traced from all over the world and from many periods in history. Each item can be substantiated. The physics are ready but it the words and how to comprehend the material is the most important requisite. What appears correct is not to substantiate to the industrial community but to substantiate the knowledge in which every person can comprehend.

Please be patient and read through this paper as many times as necessary to fully comprehend it. If writing the information was easy, it would have been done a long time ago. So I ask again, please be patient and allow each line the ability to find its meaning within. As knowledge combines it also grows; please allow the truth to live.

For this to progress only take a little from each person who understands to simply share the truth as it is.

Conveying knowledge is the duty of each person and each generation.

We now live in that period to Understand!


Peace



“To live in accordance with the essence of things is the premise of the moral life. One cannot live in peace of mind without at the same time being in harmony with reality.”

“No life is authentic that is in conflict with the order of the universe.”​

Socrates​

And not knowing the order of the universe constitutes a serious handicap in living a moral life!



Creation

It seems that a simple set of words can apply to most everyone. To the human species words are usually the primary method to share ideas for associating. The uses of words, whether spoken or even symbolized, often have different meanings simply by the order of the words used. As a baby, the first words spoken usually establish identities and from there a layering begins as more information is understood. In general, learning is governed by exposure to words and the more words available offers information to support further language development. History can share that words are often created to define a new concept or thing not described previously. New words can be simply created by most anyone but the words that last the longest are usually substantiated by an accepted form or definition. Even similar events can be described differently based on opinion and the use of different words. This feature of defining and describing is what makes words so unique. A reality of an event or description of a thing can vary simply by an opinion while still using the same words. Conveyance of information; whether of knowledge, evidence or belief can vary simply with the use of words.

How simple is it to create a word? How simple is it to create an existence by words?

These are both a real part of the human experience. Words, knowledge and truth can be made an adversary to each other, yet reality only exists one way.

The adaptability of the human experience to sort language into symbols and phonetic sounds is a substantial benefit to learning. Words and ideas placed into written and symbolic literature enables a progress to develop as time allows for further comprehension to be described. As data is gathered and understood a diverse range of unanswered questions can be addressed and re-addressed. All throughout history written descriptions of ideas and feeling often share the same feeling that reoccur within people even today. This transparency of the conscious experience is universal when recognizing the feelings but descriptions offer the greatest diversity of written knowledge. Just to understand similar words can allow each person to know that they are capable of sharing their thoughts and needs. What is unique is that languages, cultures and opinions can cause variations to meanings but the experiences of feelings exist and share equal truths. There is a diversity of conveyable information but the total human experience, as well as the feelings and experiences of each individual are the most universal ideas that words have been used to describe.

The use of words to convey knowledge and opinions can be as specific or as diverse as the environment allows. Each person usually only has access to the material knowledge available to them based on the environment they exist within. Even 500 years ago, the access to written knowledge for each person was quite different. In these last few decades access to material knowledge has been linked together into an ‘internet’ or World Wide Web. This access of such diverse opinions can provide an unequalled amount of data to observe and assess.

Learning

One of the key purposes of learning especially at a young age is to understand the rules of the family, community, or sometimes even nature or almighty. To learn rules or principles at an early age that conform to the community or environment helps reduce confusion and isolation. Misunderstandings and conflicts can be reduced with a uniform observance of material rules. When a person feels that what they have always been taught may be wrong, personal chaos may ensue. As the individual’s sense of what is truly right or wrong intensifies and differs from previous teachings the resulting gap between them often results in confusion and one’s disregard to follow the other. The importance of consistency offers a developing mind a foundation to associate comprehension with knowledge and experience. In teaching, a commitment towards representing the findings and material facts must be absolute in order to establish a quality foundation. Even at the expense of existing beliefs or understanding, the relative data and material evidence must be represented before any predetermined idea, hope or belief is granted precedence. It seems quite apparent that to develop the future generation the most accurate material knowledge available should be provided. An obligation to this integrity should stand before an observance to a predefined idea. The only idea that appears requisite is the pursuit of the truth.

Many of the achievements throughout the sciences were identified as ‘crossing lines’ or going beyond the ideas of accepted knowledge. There are examples of many breakthroughs coming from accidents and then others by guessing, but the groundbreaking achievements such as Newton’s Laws or even ‘evolution,’ share a collection of assorted data to reach conclusions. In each case the intent seems apparent that the logic and mathematical theorem were put into writing simply to share a form of description in order to convey an understanding. These important achievements changed the sciences and how they were observed as phenomena became easier to understand. The intention of knowledge for humanity is simply for one reason; to understand.

Over the course of history knowledge recorded within every culture has revealed that similar progressions had linked many of the unknown phenomena and in each case the progress towards describing these became their knowledge. All that knowledge represents understandable information placed into words even if the words themselves are varied or different. Variety is what offers different points of view not always recognized by each observer. With time, the collection of a variety of specific points can be assembled to reveal a new unifying framework. This cycle is like an evolution of knowledge or the evolving progress in the life of understanding.

 

[mee]

Could not agree with you any better than that!

Understanding​

Insight, discernment, and perception are all closely connected to understanding.


Knowledge of the Most Holy One is what understanding is,


The fear of Jehovah is the start of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Most Holy One is what understanding is proverbs 9;10


All things have been delivered to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son but the Father, neither does anyone fully know the Father but the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him

matthew 11;27


This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. john 17;3

 

[Bishadi]

Where to begin?

By repeating a statement; a mathematical set of equations representing a theory seems like the only real way to convey a scientific framework but if the framework also combines each branch of knowledge, then there is a whole group of questions to address that are far more important. The measurable accuracy offers the scientific community an ability to review theories and represent the validity scientifically. It makes sense to presuppose each idea invalid until a mathematical framework is available for scrutiny. This is quite honorable in the contexts, yet still relies on the integrity of the few who can actually complete the cross-referencing and verifications. In fact, the last ‘grand’ achievement in math offered a venue to create an atom bomb. Albert Einstein himself regretted publishing E=mc2. Neither general nor special relativity were capable of addressing every phenomenon and Al knew this. The ramifications of the release were not hypothesized or pursued before releasing the material. The community was appeased and pleased with the achievement but the end result was weaponry as certain sciences benefited from the new math. Truth is, the work was ‘unfinished’ as even Al, the author, suggested. There were still unanswered questions that could not be addressed and rather than suggest it’s pure and complete, the scientist himself, Albert Einstein continued working until his death.

‘Simply to understand,’ was the intent of Albert Einstein. He tried to address the relative questions into a set of equations that described mass, energy and time as one set of physics. He made a claim that to observe reality with understanding, offers ‘the mind of God.’ But still the math is not what makes it understandable to each person.

The scientific communities as a collective already have material benchmarks which must be re-assessed for any logic to apply when a paradigm shift simply revamps the existing laws. For example; In the Western view of history, Ptolemy presented math substantiating the descriptions of roaming plants above the earth. Actually they were roaming “bodies,” as back then the earth was still believed flat, but Copernicus did not let the community-accepted belief and existing ‘scientific evidence’ hinder his work. Personal experience coupled with the knowledge available revealed an approach that the earth was not the center of the universe. Copernicus offered a framework by remaining true to observation and logic. It appears that by simply remaining honest to what was learned and applying the knowledge to describe the misunderstood phenomenon, offered the next generation a new paradigm to work from. A point to be clear on is that change involved more than one discipline of knowledge understood and recognized as true at the time.

The key here is to observe each contribution as a step towards the development of knowledge. Each combination or advancement can be recognized as governed by a desire to understand and not to retain complacency to specific ‘laws.’

 

[mee]

just as alert people understand from the leafing of a fig tree that summer is near. Jesus advised: "In this way you also, when you see these things occurring, know that the kingdom of God is near."—Luke 21:31.

 

[Bishadi]

just as alert people understand from the leafing of a fig tree that summer is near. Jesus advised: "In this way you also, when you see these things occurring, know that the kingdom of God is near."—Luke 21:31.

And what do 'you' see coming?

Are the trees dying from the top down? etc.....

 

[mee]

And what do 'you' see coming?

christs presence in kingdom power is seen , ever since 1914

but the day of Jehovah is near








JEHOVAHS Day of Judgment Is Near!

"The great day of Jehovah is near. It is near, and there is a hurrying of it very much."—ZEPHANIAH 1:14. ​

keeping on the watch is what it is all about . ​

and not losing our focus .​

What is "the great day of Jehovah"? Throughout the Scriptures, the expression "the day of Jehovah" refers to special times when Jehovah executed judgment on his enemies and glorified his great name.


The unfaithful people of Judah and Jerusalem as well as the oppressive inhabitants of Babylon and Egypt all faced ‘days of Jehovah’ when they experienced the execution of Jehovah’s judgments. (Isaiah 2:1, 10-12; 13:1-6; Jeremiah 46:7-10)



However, the greatest "day of Jehovah" still lies ahead.


It is the "day" when Jehovah’s judgment will be executed on those who have defamed his name.



It will start with the destruction of "Babylon the Great," the world empire of false religion, and culminate in the annihilation of the rest of the wicked system of things at the war of Armageddon.—Revelation 16:14, 16; 17:5, 15-17; 19:11-21.


but before that day comes it is good to know that GOODNEWS is out there MATTHEW 24;14



The vision is yet for the appointed time, and it keeps panting on to the end, and it will not tell a lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it; for it will without fail come true. It will not be late." (Habakkuk 2:3)









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[Bishadi]

6Do not these -- all of them -- against him a simile taken up, And a moral of acute sayings for him, And say, Wo [to] him who is multiplying [what is] not his? Till when also is he multiplying to himself heavy pledges?

Sharing what you know not, digs a big hole.

To be as the others just to seem accute, is not the best path for an honest person

4Lo, a presumptuous one! Not upright is his soul within him, And the righteous by his stedfastness liveth.

 

[mee]

Sharing what you know not, digs a big hole.

To be as the others just to seem accute, is not the best path for an honest person

sharing is good it preserves
alive the soul.


true Christian faith ‘preserves alive the soul.’ (Hebrews 10:39)

 

[Bishadi]

sharing is good it preserves
alive the soul.


true Christian faith ‘preserves alive the soul.’ (Hebrews 10:39)

But to share knowledge as fact when not truly known, is worse.

The choice to stir, recruit or impose adverse or misguiding 'hope' with no checking and rechecking of the validity.... is something you will have to remember; follow JC's list of rules;

Mark 10: 19 the commands thou hast known: Thou mayest not commit adultery, Thou mayest do no murder, Thou mayest not steal, Thou mayest not bear false witness, Thou mayest not defraud, Honour thy father and mother.'

So even as you stand up with over 4000 posts on this forum, screaming the same message over and over....... establishes a clear pattern; selfish intent to continue inappropiate hope in the miracles of created words (false doctrine).

Remember the worst atrocity a person can do to mankind is fib knowlingly.

As it causes others to be damaged.

 

[mee]

Remember the worst atrocity a person can do to mankind is fib knowlingly.

As it causes others to be damaged.

very true indeed,
its always best to stick to what the bible REALLY teaches and then those who have been damaged by falsehood can see the truth of Gods word, and turn away from falsehood and then they can be healed.



mee likes to make known bible truths as it is very good .

matthew 5;5

Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.

But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. psalm 37;11 ​

With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: "Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away." revelation 21;3-4

As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing.
1 corinthians 15;26


bible promises are very good

 

[mee]

So even as you stand up with over 4000 posts on this forum, screaming the same message over and over.......

and the message from the bible is very good it is GOODNEWS and even the faithful angels have a part in GOODNEWS.
"And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people."—Rev. 14:6.


the world does not view the good news of God’s Kingdom and its message of salvation as delightsome.— but mee does.



Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first MARK 13;10


MEE LIKES
GOODNEWS


TODAY people the world over feel that they are drowning in bad news. but there is GOODNEWS FOR THE TAKING


Today as in Jesus’ day, the good news gives hope and comfort. (Romans 15:4)

 

[mee]

follow JC's list of rules;

This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.


john 17;3

indeed we should , it is very good

 

[Bishadi]

"And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people."—Rev. 14:6.

See what I mean; not a person ever to walk this earth.......'saw .....an ...angel flying'

Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them.

and if God is the 'total' then this be true in fact.... not as a separate entity outside of the 'people' .... then honor all of Gods contributions.... such as the knowledge of your brothers.... observe in the compassion shared by JC, but do not let the words, corrupted for secularization be the final words to believe. Trust god (the total).... will honor the intent of Peace and community between all..... know that knowledge that the truth of 'light' is the truth to bring all mankind together.... as magic is not what is true but what ignorance must retain as the cause.......

See how important 'light' is?............ well this same beginning is universal throughout the beliefs of many of the religions.....

do not retain the selfishness of a single sect and culture ..... it's all about choice, and be humble to not knowing; a form to represent integrity ...........

What is so sad is that folk that represent such the depth and commitment as you have are going to be soooooooo upset when they find out most of it will never happen, and them people who have fibbed, lied and continued to impose the fear of the faith upon their minds are going to know the idea of being ........... judged! By their own children, friends, familiy and enemies.

4In him was life, and the life was the light of men,

5and the light in the darkness did shine, and the darkness did not perceive it.

6There came a man -- having been sent from God -- whose name [is] John,

7this one came for testimony, that he might testify about the Light, that all might believe through him;

8that one was not the Light, but -- that he might testify about the Light.

9He was the true Light, which doth enlighten every man, coming to the world;

10in the world he was, and the world through him was made, and the world did not know him:
11to his own things he came, and his own people did not receive him;

Suggestion; follow the light not the fibs!

 

[mee]

Suggestion; follow the light not the fibs!

light has to do with the understanding and enlightenment that come from Jehovah God.

and its very good to listening ears .


Paul spoke of the light when he wrote

"For God is he who said: ‘Let the light shine out of darkness,’ and he has shone on our hearts to illuminate them with the glorious knowledge of God by the face of Christ." (2 Corinthians 4:6)



Life-giving light from Jehovah focuses on the person of Jesus Christ.


God’s "Chief Agent"


After his resurrection, Jesus revealed to his followers another facet of the light. He said: "All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth." (Matthew 28:18)


Acknowledging Jesus’ headship is a key requirement for receiving a favorable judgment.

You Are the Light of the World ​

loving the light means reflecting the light so that others can see it and be attracted to it. ​

"You are the light of the world," said Jesus. And he added "Let your light shine before men, that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens." (Matthew 5:14, 16) ​

 

[Bishadi]

Rev24

22I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.

23The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.

24The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it.

25On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.

26The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it.

27Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Light is energy; the truth and foundation of the knowledge to combine mankind.

The land behind the pueblo in Taos (untouched), is that place.

Understanding is that book.

Who is to contribute their compassion for the knowledge of tomorrow?

That is how each find themselves within the everlasting; by giving of themselves for the children of tomorrow.

 

[mee]

Rev24

quote]
do you mean revelation 14
the book of revelation ends at chapter 22


And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. revelation 14

 

[mee]

Do You Recognize the Sign of Jesus’ Presence?
Jesus gave a sign that would enable his followers to recognize his "presence" as well as "the conclusion of the system of things."

This sign is composed of several facets, which together make up a composite identifying mark, or signal—the sign of Jesus’ presence.


"Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom." (Matthew 24:7) ..... 1914 THE FIRST WORLD WAR

"There will be food shortages." (Matthew 24:7)


"In one place after another pestilences." (Luke 21:11)

"Earthquakes." (Matthew 24:7)

Most facets of the sign of the last days are distressing. ​

But Jesus also told of welcome news.​

"This

good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations." (Matthew 24:14)

ITS ALL HAPPENING IN THE TIME OF THE END its a good job that there is GOODNEWS going on as well as the badnews. ​

As the last days reach their climax, Jesus will wipe out this old system and the people who support it.

The Messianic Kingdom will then administer affairs on earth, which will be brought to its foretold Paradise condition.

Mankind will be freed from sickness and death, and the dead will be resurrected to life on earth.


These are the delightful prospects awaiting those who recognize the sign of the times.


Would it not be the wise course to learn more about the sign and what one must do to survive the end of this system? Surely this ought to be a matter of great urgency for everyone.—John 17:3.



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