What evidence would you accept?

[Aupmanyav]

At the end, mankind would know who is the GREATEST God of all gods.

Gods, at least the Hindu ones, do not engage in this Trump-like behavior - "My .... is bigger". Did YHWH do that?

Do you think this is just a coincidence....or a divine inspiration

I would term it ignorance.

 

[muhammad_isa]

"My .... is bigger". Did YHWH do that?

No .. not in my opinion.
We are taught (in Bible/Qur'an) that YHWH(Allah) is the only TRUE god (reality).
G-d is not a man-made idol/god .. G-d prohibits idol worship.

 

[beechan]

Gods, at least the Hindu ones, do not engage in this Trump-like behavior - "My .... is bigger". Did YHWH do that?

Yes, there is fight for biggest even among the three god heads in Hinduism.
Vaishnavism: Followers believe Vishnu is the Supreme Being (Svayam Bhagavan). In this view, Brahma and Shiva are seen as being created by or subordinate to Vishnu.
Shaivism: Followers believe Shiva is the Supreme Lord (Mahadeva).

 

[Stephen Andrew]

Peace to all,

The Christ is a logically two Gods in one body.
From the will of the father through Mary in the immaculate conception for Jesus, the eternal priestly authority becoming hypo-statically united in one Christ body.

God of mercy, Mary queen of heaven, God of transformation united with eternal authority in the new Adam for Jesus, God of justice becoming from the bride of Christ for the groom in one Christ body

Peace always,
Stephen

 

[TheLightWithin]

Through faith, the the Church can say the person is the Holy Spirit and Mary is not a god but through logic I believe the Holy Spirit is the family of God becoming again for all and Mary is always together with the Father in the Son in One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

I'm not sure if you refer to the theory that the Holy Spirit is female - I have a book about that somewhere and I've run across it here and there
On a quick search I happened to locate this The Holy Spirit as feminine: Early Christian testimonies and their interpretation | van Oort | HTS Teologiese Studies / Theological Studies

 

[TheLightWithin]

There is a view from Antiquity that 'the Big Bang' etc., was all a tragic consequence of the Fall.

This sounds intriguing. Say more?

 

[TheLightWithin]

Logic is all the evidence I need.

How so?
Logic is a thought process, a method of thinking systematically.
You need content to think about - data, evidence, etc.
You know who used to claim she based all her thinking and philosophy on logic and reason?
Ayn Rand, and her Objectivism philosophy.

 

[Aupmanyav]

We are taught (in Bible/Qur'an) that YHWH(Allah) is the only TRUE god (reality).
G-d is not a man-made idol/god .. G-d prohibits idol worship.

You are taught that, but that does not mean many others agree.
You have never been able to provide any evidence that your God is not a product of human imagination.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Yes, there is fight for biggest even among the three god heads in Hinduism.

Only the ignorant do that. Majority excepts that it is a personal view.
For some there are many other Gods and Goddesses, for some there is none.

 

[Stephen Andrew]

But there is no such story in the beginning. You made it up.

I'm not sure if you refer to the theory that the Holy Spirit is female - I have a book about that somewhere and I've run across it here and there
On a quick search I happened to locate this The Holy Spirit as feminine: Early Christian testimonies and their interpretation | van Oort | HTS Teologiese Studies / Theological Studies

Peace to all,

Understanding the Trinity: How Can God Be Three Persons in One, OMNILogically.

The Gender of the Holy Spirit is non-gender, and better said OMNiLogically all gender, all angels and saints all martyrs all Old Covenent Saved Out of the Bosom of Abraham for all those awaiting awaiting becoming from the Holy Spirit Family through the Christ in the flesh. Logically the Holy Spirit is the Family of God resurrecting all, Longinus, all from the Cross, Dismas, and all mankind becoming One Family becoming again for all Creetion in One Holy Spriti Family One God in being.

OMNILogically the prayer that mentions the grace of the Lord Jesus, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit allows all to see the preexisting persons in being created from the Father transformed through the Mother for the Son becoming through all mankind in The Christ becoming again glorified and transfigured One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Logically, The doctrine of the Trinity is foundational to the Christian faith. It is crucial for properly understanding what God is like, how He relates to us, and how we should relate to Him.

Rationally, Thus, the Son is not one-third of the being of God, He is all of the being of God. The Father is not one-third of the being of God, He is all of the being of God. And likewise with the Mother. All three are Personal Gods in being preexisting before creation was ever created was even created. And each God is separate in the Powers of God and each are equal in the Powers of being God and together they are One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

To me, When we speak of the Father, Son, and The Mother together we are not speaking of any greater being than when we speak of the Father alone, the Son alone, or the Mother alone.

2 Corinthians 13:14: A prayer that mentions the grace of the Lord Jesus, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit.

In generalization, The Fellowship of the Holy Spirit Power in One Family makes the Holy Spirit Family of the One God in being united from The Holy Spirit through the Immaculate Flesh from the New Eve through the New Adam in the Christ becoming again in all one Holy Spirit Family One God in being. In fellowship with all from the Bosom of Abraham, saved through the Flesh of The Christ in all together now with all Old Covenant saved, the Martyrs and Saints and angels all becoming again through the power of the Holy Spirit Family of God in One God in being through both natures, Spirit and life for all, One Body in One Holy Spirit Family. We all become united through the Blood of God in the Host that transforms and glorifies and transfigures all One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Logically, The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons —the Father, Son, and Mother. Stated OMNILogically, God is one in essence and three divine persons in being becoming again in all mankind One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Logically The person of each member of the Trinity means that each Person has a distinct center of consciousness. Thus, they relate to each other personally One God in being One Holy Spirit Family.

To me logically, The fact that the Father, Son, and Mother are distinct Persons means, in other words, that the Father is Creator, the Son is God of Transfiguration and Glorification and the Mother is God of Transformation, and the Holy Spirit is the Family of God preexisting as One Family of God in being.

In generalization, These are all qualities of person-hood. The Person-hoods are in the One Holy Spirit Family from the Person-hood of the Father through the Person-hood of the Mother for the Person-hood for Son becoming the Christ in all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being. They are three real persons and the three roles God plays.

To me, How is God one? He is one in essence. How is God three? He is three in Person. Essence and person are not the same thing. God is one in a certain way (essence) and three in a different way (person). Since God is one in a different way than He is three, the Trinity is not a contradiction. There would only be a contradiction if we said that God is three in the same way that The Holy Spirit Family is One.

Logically The three Persons are not each part of God, but are each fully God and equally God. Within God’s one undivided being there is an unfolding into three interpersonal relationships such that there are three Persons. The distinctions within the Godhead are not distinctions of His essence and neither are they something added on to His essence, but they are the unfolding of God’s one, undivided being into three interpersonal relationships such that there are three real Persons.

Logically and in generalization, Awareness of the distinct role that each Person of the Trinity has in our salvation can especially serve to give us greater comfort and appreciation for God in our prayers, as well as helping us to be specific in directing our prayers. Nonetheless, while recognizing the distinct roles that each Person has, we should never think of their roles as so separate that the other Persons are not involved. Rather, everything that one Person is involved in, the other two are also involved in, one way or another.

To me, The Wisdom of the Holy Spirit Family of God is Sophia and is neither male or female in the One Holy Spirit Family in being. There is no gender in the Family of the One God in being One Holy Spirit Family, OMNILogically.

Peace always,
Stephen Andrew

 

[muhammad_isa]

You are taught that, but that does not mean many others agree..

Of course it doesn't.
Many people don't understand evolution .. perhaps they weren't taught very well.

 

[Stephen Andrew]

Peace to all,

Stephen OMNiLogics from the Power of the Holy Spirit Family allows all to be able to see God the Holy Family with new OMNiLogical Eyes becoming again in all One God in being, I believe.

Logically God allows "evolution" in a generalization as remainng within the boundries of creation with restpect to the limits of the DNA intelligence from only in Creation mortally and corrupt becoming in One Failed Body.

In all generalization, From created, the transforming glorifying and transfiguration powers are from The Holy Spirit Family becoming again in all and are from logical formulas of the Faith fulfilled from Old Covenant Salvation feature benefits logically in all and nothing is removed and all is fulfilled by the New Living Sacrifice. The Host that transforms all becoming immortalized by contact of all or of even any of the senses becoming again incorruptibly glorified and transfigured One Holy Spirit Family One God in being, OMNILogically, God.

To become immortally and incorruptibly in One Family, transfiguration can only become again from the infinite disciplines applied to the New Creation through infallible intelligemce logic manifesting through the Created Body becoming again in both natures One Family, I believe.

Peace always,
Stephen

 

[Aupmanyav]

Of course it doesn't.
Many people don't understand evolution .. perhaps they weren't taught very well.

Some people were taught, but it did not register, or they intentionally deny it.

 

[muhammad_isa]

..they intentionally deny it..

Mmm .. that's human beings, for you .. we often only believe what we want to believe.
We convince ourselves that such-and-such is true or not true.

 

[Stephen Andrew]

Peace to all,

Logical intelligence in DNA allows hereditary to change within the scope of the created being. Envriomentally, the Intelligence cannot change beyone to scope of the created beings finite scope.

Intelligence Logic failed is not unlike the bistable multivibrator in digital logic,

Logical intelligence manifestation in created beings is limited onlt to the becomings and the becoming agains, OMNiLogically.

Peace always,
Stephen

 

[Thomas]

This sounds intriguing. Say more?

I've got an extended work-in-progress going on over on the Christianity Board – Reflections continued – The Fall

 

[Thomas]

I'm not sure if you refer to the theory that the Holy Spirit is female - I have a book about that somewhere and I've run across it here and there
On a quick search I happened to locate this The Holy Spirit as feminine: Early Christian testimonies and their interpretation | van Oort | HTS Teologiese Studies / Theological Studies

A more contemporary view of the 'Divine Feminine' is from the Russian Orthodox school of Sophiology, which I've introduced here.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Mmm .. that's human beings, for you .. we often only believe what we want to believe.
We convince ourselves that such-and-such is true or not true.

True or false, depends on evidence.

 

[muhammad_isa]

True or false, depends on evidence.

We all know that.
I guess your experience is different to mine .. your environment is different from mine.

You see people around you who believe all sorts of things without any evidence..
..and so you have concluded that all religions have no rational foundation.

I have come to a different conclusion. Religions are not all the same.
They have different natures .. different histories .. and so on.

Christianity, for example, does not belong to "the white man" .. it doesn't belong to anybody
in particular, but as we know, originated in "the crossroads" of Europe, Africa and Asia..
..what some people call the middle-east.

 

[Aupmanyav]

We all know that.
I guess your experience is different to mine .. your environment is different from mine.
You see people around you who believe all sorts of things without any evidence..
..and so you have concluded that all religions have no rational foundation.

I have come to a different conclusion. Religions are not all the same.
They have different natures .. different histories .. and so on.

Christianity, for example, does not belong to "the white man" .. it doesn't belong to anybody
in particular, but as we know, originated in "the crossroads" of Europe, Africa and Asia..
..what some people call the middle-east.

I have my own views. I am not concerned about what you or they believe.
Of course, all religions are not the same. None offers the wide range that Hinduism does.
This is because action according to 'dharma' (fulfillment of duties) is considered more important than worship of any deities.
All the world's troubles start from Middle-east.