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Hi Thomas, Well I "almost" agree with you here! Some well known quotes from the NASB John1 1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with G!d, and the Word was G!d. ..... 14: And the Word became flesh, ..... Why, I never knew that the Catholic teaching was that Jesus was the...

Hi Chris, Hey thats just a carpenter thing. Best of luck keeping rid of the cigs. Joe

Hi greymare, Sometimes I see it this way, when reading the bible! Makes you wonder. .02 Joe

Hi, Is this a case of symbols and idols being the same thing? Websters defines them slightly different. idol: an image of a god, used as an object or instrument of worship. symbol: something that stands for or represents another thing; esp., and object used to represent something abstract...

Hi juantoo3, Thanks for taking the time to post all this. I've seen some of the things before and now have read more. My early learning was from the hands of the RCC, but the nuns never really taught history of the church ( maybe if they knew it, they would not have been nuns). Imagine if the...

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Hi Chris, Would that be to help us with the heat in the kitchen? :)

Hi Dream, So maybe this is the way it looks: Sparrows < Humans < Dust and Ashes :eek: Joe

Hi seattlegal, Interesting contrast between the old and the new. Does the question still remain? Hearts of stone vs. hearts of flesh, do these come from the same place? Joe

Hi, But why continue in untruth. Set the record straight and move on. .02 Joe

Hi seattlegal, From the NASB: Jeremiah 31:34 "They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them," declares the Lord, Since I don't perceive this to have happened, is...

Hi juantoo3, I seem to have gotten on this path in a similar way. Every once in a while the choice to exit is offered, but for now I keep moving along. It's different than it was before, sometimes tiring, but I think this way is better. Joe

Hi Chris, When I went down to the Christian bookstore and brought a copy of the Bible it came complete with the OT and the NT. Reading through, the OT comes first and leads me assume that it is some kind of foundation for the NT. Sometimes though, it's hard to see the connection. Since I'm a...

Hi Dream, Can I use Luke 6:35, is Luke's G!d in agreement with Joshua? Is Moses' G!d in agreement with Joshua? My original thought was to contrast the somewhat blood letting OT with the more peaceful way that Jesus was teaching in the NT. The use Matthew and Joshua was not a link between...

Hi, looks like I made a mistake. From the NASB Rev 17:14 "These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, ..... Looking at what Chris posted from Rev 19:11-21 "the Lamb" becomes the rider on the white horse. Hmm, I guess...

Hi, As I read through the NT, Jesus never kills anyone or orders any one to be killed. Even in Revelation "the Lamb" doesn't order or carry out the wrath of G!d. I Don't take "heap coals of fire" as a literal, could the meaning be closer to what Ahanu says here? By doing this thing you will...

.....come from the same place? From the NASB Joshua 10:40 Thus Joshua struck all the land, the hill country and the Negev and the lowland and the slopes and all their kings. He left no survivor, but he utterly destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the G!d of Israel, had commanded...

Hi Thomas, It does seem to be important where one is standing. Some don't see G!d doing the hostage taking, but do see "the church" in this regard. Some see G!d as the liberator from the bondage of "the church". John 8:32, such a great passage from the New Testament. Rev 7:12 Joe

Hi Thomas, Since you used caps here are you talking about G!d the Father or are you giving church fathers Divinity? Joe

Hi BlaznFattyz, This is from John 6:44 from the NASB. I really don't like using one line from the text, and have used this quote elsewhere in this thread. Read the rest to get the point. 44:"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; It's there for all to read. IMHO: one...