Namaste Vapour, thank you for the post. fair enough.... let's talk about the language of the Mahayana. what language was the Mahayana originally written in? what is Pali? what is Sanskrit? i'm asking what type of languages are these two, specifically? did you read the article? this is the salient point: Who were the opponents who were labeled Hinayana? Theravada? Probably not. every school of the Hinyana is gone. the only school that is even remotely related in the Theravedan school... and Theravedan is the Teachings of the Elders, which is only a Hinyana school in the loosest sense. nevertheless, those are sanskrit and pali terms, and for most english speakers, the subtlties are simply not there and they do not view them in a derogatory manner, unless their particular teacher does. do you know who Robert Thurman is? in any event, he's chosen to represent the three Vehicles with the western words: orthodox, messianic and apocalyptic. which may be better terms for describing the Vehicles in the west. of course not. which is why we call the school, Theravedan. we call the Vehicle Hinyana. however, if one thinks that they are practicing one Vehicle at a time, they are mistaken, from our point of view. it's like trying to build a house without a foundation... it simply cannot be done.