What the Bleep Do We Know?

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  1. WHKeith

    WHKeith New Member

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    Greetings all!

    I'm not sure this is the place to post this, but here it is anyway.

    Yesterday, some friends and I went to see a documentary film called "What the Bleep Do We Know?" It's having a limited run at certain theaters across the U.S.--often at art theaters. Here is the web site, where you can see some trailers: http://whatthebleep.com/home/.

    The film is about quantum physics and how we shape our own reality. Those of you who've been on this board for a while know that's a favorite topic of mine, one I'm always harping on when it comes to investigations of magic, healing, and psychic phenomenon! It covers a lot of the stuff I explored in my recent book on magic, "The Science of the Craft." One of the scientists they interviewed, in fact, Dr. Fred Alan Wolf, was one of my main sources for that book.

    They can't cover everything in two hours, of course, and I could wish they'd gotten a bit more into metaphysics and a little less into the peptide chemistry of addiction and emotions--though all of it was interesting. They did touch on the nature of God, and at least superficially on the essential "oneness" to be found at a base state of reality. Much of what they covered is fundamental to the belief structure of many alternative religious worldviews.

    Of particular interest were the water crystal photographs of Dr. Masaru Emoto, which demonstrate spectacular changes in the crystal morphology of freezing distilled water under the influence of different thoughts, emotions, focused intent, or music. I'd not seen his work before, though I'd read of it, and it is stunning.

    I found the film wonderful and thought-provoking.

    If any of you have the chance to see it in your area, I highly recommend it!

    Bill
     
  2. diggingdeeper

    diggingdeeper New Member

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    FYI

    The following are undisputed facts with regard to the film and film makers.

    1. In addition to the films three directors, there were actors and others involved in the production who are long time "students" of Ramthas' School of enlightenment.

    2. A disproportionate amount of time was given in voice and film to Ramtha, Dr. Joe dispenza, and Miceal Ledwith.

    3. Dr Joe Dispenza and Miceal Ledwith are both long time students and "appointed teachers at Ramthas' school of enlightenment (RSE)

    4. Dr Joe Dispenza (the one who creates his day) has gone to court and testified that his teacher (ramtha) has told him that terrible times are coming and that he needs to protect his family. He also invested over $10,000.00 in an infamous scam that infected RSE and was touted by Ramtha as a vehicle to gain fabulous wealth and many of the schools membership lost substantial sums of money. Some lost their entire life savings.
    This is the person who teaches the brain science in RSE.

    5.Miceal Ledwith a clergyman with a rather dubious past (see http://unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=36&si=770458&issue_id=7565) is the one chosen by the film makers to be the theological spokesman. He is also the theologian in residence of RSE.
    He also has been marketing several products within the school and its followers. Guess that could not have been done to easily in the Catholic church.

    6. The following persons in the film have all spoken at RSE and sold books there.

    Fred Allen Wolf
    Dr Candice Pert
    Amit Gotswami
    John Haglin
    Joe Dispenza
    Miceal Ledwith
    and of course the big guy himself, Ramtha

    7. One of the scientists who was in the film and had never appeared at the school is Dr David Albert Professor and Director of Philosophical Physics at Columbia university.
    He has stated in several venues that his views were totally misrepresented in the film. He claims that in over 5 hours of interviews he explained to the film makers why their concept of how Quantum Physics works has virtually no support in the scientific community.
    He even called in to a radio program the director was on to discuss this and was cut off. The host of the show said this was done because it was "negative"
    so much for no good or bad, that is unless it is convienent.

    8. To date, there has been no response as to where the information which lead to the story about the indians not being able to see the ships of Columbus originated from. There appears to be no evidence to support this claim. In addition, the film mentioned "clipper ships" which were not even in existence at that time. Perhaps that is why they couldn't see them.

    There were many more, but I will leave them for others. If anyone has any information to refute any of the facts laid out here, I will be more then willing to retract them.

    They are relevant because of the deliberateness on the part of the film makers to keep certain facts unknown (ironically, it is I making the unknown know) and misrepresent others.
     
  3. bgruagach

    bgruagach eclectic Wiccan

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    There's an interesting skeptical article about JZ Knight ("Ramtha") and a review of this new promotional movie at http://www.skepdic.com/channel.html

    I'm afraid I would be rather skeptical myself of any claims made in the movie.
     

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