Big Love! (Atheist mystic)
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Telepathy then, in the context of disagreeable thoughts that can be diagnosed as schizophrenia, is one form of what can be termed as a discarnate intrusion.
Another form is inserted into dreams. I confess that I have not had many of these that I can remember except one that appeared to generalize a form that might be illustrated by the lyric "A walk-on part in the War" between the sexes.
But neither of your examples is discarnate, really: Telepathy would be an intrusion of one incarnate entity's thoughts into another incarnate entity's. Dream personalities are produced by the same incarnate brain as the dream experiencer's.
Or perhaps your understanding of telepathy and dreams differs from mine?