Within the Wester tradition, the Greeks are credited with the earliest discourses on 'the self'. Generally, the interpretations of this are known as 'ontological' or epistemelogical'. I'm trying to redefine this slightly and am looking for words that define man as generally: 1. refering the human actions through 'the other' - a deity. 2. refering the human actions through the human. An example of the former would be Judaism, an example of the latter would be the Greeks and the Romans (the Romans had God-emperors and you can't get much more self-oriented than that). Does anyone know any Eastern religions / faiths that have definitions of there terms and where I can find some descriptions? I've come accross tracts describing 'the right way to live' etc, but not phrases describing the exact opposite etc. The European obsession with internal discourse creates the environment to define there terms, I'm not sure about other geographies.