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We are all projecting and living in a world where everyone is sleeping. We sleep, dream, wake up go to work and then you spend some time with your girlfriend or friends or watch something for example on netflix. And then it repeats. You have to wake up so you are able to see behind the projection. Angels for a lack of a different word are watching us and they know what everyone is doing and thinking and how well you are. If you have woken up you will notice something odd. Look what most people in this world want. They want to be famous and to be rich etc. These are the wrong things to covet. You have to try to stand up for justice, sacrifice something out of neighbourly love because of the rule of cause and effect.
The darkness is also spreading, look at the condition of the world we live in and how people with much money and also politicians are changing the world so it is becoming a darker place. A battle is going on on earth and many who think they are good are evil and many who think they are evil are good.
Dont sleep but try to wake up!
 

The King of Death​


We live like a chicken who doesn't know what's going on. In the morning it takes its baby chicks out to scratch for food. In the evening, it goes back to sleep in the coop. The next morning it goes out to look for food again. Its owner scatters rice for it to eat every day, but it doesn't know why its owner is feeding it. The chicken and its owner are thinking in very different ways.

The owner is thinking, “How much does the chicken weigh?” The chicken, though, is engrossed in the food. When the owner picks it up to heft its weight, it thinks the owner is showing affection.

We too don't know what's going on: where we come from, how many more years we'll live, where we'll go, who will take us there. We don't know this at all.

The King of Death is like the owner of the chicken. We don't know when he'll catch up with us, for we're engrossed — engrossed in sights, sounds, smells, tastes, tactile sensations, and ideas. We have no sense that we're growing older. We have no sense of enough.
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It's certain seldom that one might see the dangers in the world, good householder, but it's not enough to just realice the faults. It's extreme more seldom that someone sees and declares also the cause, the ending, and the path out of the wheel.
 
Northstar said:
We are all projecting and living in a world where everyone is sleeping. We sleep, dream, wake up go to work and then you spend some time with your girlfriend or friends or watch something for example on netflix. And then it repeats. You have to wake up so you are able to see behind the projection. Angels for a lack of a different word are watching us and they know what everyone is doing and thinking and how well you are. If you have woken up you will notice something odd. Look what most people in this world want. They want to be famous and to be rich etc. These are the wrong things to covet. You have to try to stand up for justice, sacrifice something out of neighbourly love because of the rule of cause and effect.
The darkness is also spreading, look at the condition of the world we live in and how people with much money and also politicians are changing the world so it is becoming a darker place. A battle is going on on earth and many who think they are good are evil and many who think they are evil are good.
Dont sleep but try to wake up!
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Totally agree. The Great Slumbering that one of the German Idealists (Schiller, I think) talked about. Yes we are asleep but possess the potential to be lucid within the “dream” we think of as being reality.
If your title of this thread had referred to how we also project onto “God,” I would have said this post is the most important of any ever posted in this forum, but nonetheless your line of thought is VERY important.
Regarding this discussion as it is, I’m thinking of “heat” vs “light” in relation to enlightenment. We seem to need the “heat” (or “school of hard knocks”) of needless (but karmically earned) suffering to help us wake up to what’s really important. We have become such a doing world that we have grossly neglected being (as in “I am that I am”, go and be likewise), and even our love relationships have suffered. Here in the USA government is erroneously viewed as a business, when in fact it is a RELATIONSHIP. But since our imbalance involving too much doing and not enough being has eroded our integrity, this potential loving relationship (our perfect union, “government” that resembles one body in Christ) our relationship called government is dysfunctional, up for sell to the highest bidder. It’s true that money can’t buy you love, but we keep trying to buy a love that’s nowhere near as good as the wholeness and true freedom of God’s love and our loving embrace of I-am-ness.
The good news is that even as we speak love has managed to survive and will probably help us get back to the beautiful beingness and Godliness we currently hunger for. Love helps actualize our authentic being. It is an antidote to our brokenness. Love will probably eventually win over the cold meanness USA is experiencing. And this will help us wake up to what’s most important in life.
 
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Very good. Yes, what better reward and consolation prize for our mission on earth than love? But the neutral mind acceptance of being-in-the-world can be itself an open door to love. Without accepting and embracing one’s own being, love has a less secure foundation upon which to flourish.
So, love could get us back on track, but we will also need to improve on beingness if we are to maintain and develop love in the midst of earthly hardship.
 
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Dhammañāṇa Bhikkhu said:
Yes, love, craving, is what keeps beings on dreaming on...
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I consistently dream three things in terms of settlings: prison, school, psychology office/center. Often the three are integrated, a psychology office in a prison, a school in a prison (both of which do exist in real life).
The prison theme seems awfully strong and highly frequent and consistent.
My main theory is that the container called the human body makes the spirit feel fenced in or imprisoned. The spirit (or spirited imagination?) flies freely about during dream time and then must accept the limits of physical reality as it either physically reenters the body, or mentally realigns with physical reality. “No more dreaming. Time to get down to business.”
But, as you say, the possibility of love in the physical realm and physical state motivates the spirit (or imagination) to accept the imprisonment or illusion (in terms of Ultimate Reality). Imprisonment may represent limitations (I’m lucky if, at the ripe old age of 70, I can muster a 2 inch vertical leap! And though I love my wife dearly and consistently, we have bad arguments/fights occasionally.).
Illusionism may represent the relative un-truth of life on the physical surface, as compared to an interconnected, convergent, deeper Reality.
Interesting that the regular human dream seems to us an illusion upon awakening. What if our wake state is a dream compared to the enlightenment of a deeper, more “spiritual,” perspective? Anthropomorphically speaking, our reality could be God’s dream. Ironic that just maybe the looseness of our dream illusions align better with a deeper, entangled, reality. Dreams may be more real (in some important ways at least) than “reality!”
 
otherbrother said:
Love helps actualize our authentic being. It is an antidote to our brokenness.
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While I stand by that statement wholeheartedly, I also must point out that human love, as joyful as it may be, is anything but peaceful. Love needs peace as much as brokenness (from attachment, being “nailed to” or crucified) needs love. Even as a Christian raised on the emphasis of love, I see great/wise benefit of Buddhism’s emphasis on non attachment and neutral mind nonjudgmental-ness (mindfulness?).
The heart-fullness of standard Christianity is supported by the mindfulness of (at least the Zen branch) of Buddhism. And the energy awareness of Hinduism ain’t too shabby either. Especially if Christians are trying to use the Holy “Spirit!” Probably many religions can supplement Christianity and each other.
Isn’t this a major contribution of “Global New Thought?” Has Global New Thought come and gone? Or is it something we should be seriously discussing in this forum? I think it seeks to show the gifts of each religion, what each “brings to the (spiritual, connectiveness, wholeness) table.”
 
otherbrother said:
While I stand by that statement wholeheartedly, I also must point out that human love, as joyful as it may be, is anything but peaceful. Love needs peace as much as brokenness (from attachment, being “nailed to” or crucified) needs love. Even as a Christian raised on the emphasis of love, I see great/wise benefit of Buddhism’s emphasis on non attachment and neutral mind nonjudgmental-ness (mindfulness?).
The heart-fullness of standard Christianity is supported by the mindfulness of (at least the Zen branch) of Buddhism. And the energy awareness of Hinduism ain’t too shabby either. Especially if Christians are trying to use the Holy “Spirit!” Probably many religions can supplement Christianity and each other.
Isn’t this a major contribution of “Global New Thought?” Has Global New Thought come and gone? Or is it something we should be seriously discussing in this forum? I think it seeks to show the gifts of each religion, what each “brings to the (spiritual, connectiveness, wholeness) table.”
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When I asked Open A.I. if Global New Thought was still popular:
Yes, the core ideas of New Thought remain popular
, though often secularized within the "self-help" movement rather than explicitly identified as New Thought. While formal New Thought denominations exist and continue to exist, their principles have been popularized and diluted into mainstream culture through concepts like positive thinking, the Law of Attraction, and visualization. The overall trend of people becoming "spiritual but not religious" further fuels the popularity of these ideas, even as traditional religious affiliation declines.
  • Secular self-help: Many contemporary self-help gurus, such as Tony Robbins and Louise Hay, teach principles directly derived from New Thought without using the religious label.
  • Popular culture: Concepts like the Law of Attraction, which originated in New Thought, are widely recognized thanks to books and films like The Secret.
    • Decline in organized religion: The growing trend of people identifying as "spiritual but not religious" creates a larger audience for New Thought's ideas, which emphasize personal spiritual power over traditional religious dogma.
    • Cultural influence: The influence is widespread, and its principles can be found in various forms of motivational literature and self-help, making it a pervasive, though often unrecognized, part of modern culture.
    • Formal organizations: Formal New Thought organizations, like the Association for Global New Thought, continue to exist and operate, though their broader recognition may be limited compared to the secularized versions of their ideas.
 
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