Okay, some of you may not understand the reference to sheep ammo. This is a term i use to classify anything that is devoutly believed by judaeochristians, that can be used against them when they start spouting doctrine at you. So, here goes. I would like, for a moment, to take you back to the beginning, the dawn of time, the creation of the world. 'God' created the heavens and earth, and all things in it. However, it is interesting at this juncture to note that the word used for 'God' in this particular part is actually: Elohim. A hebrew word which means god, but the word is not singular, plural. Which makes it 'gods', not 'god'. So, to rewrite the previous: "Gods created the heavens and earth, and all things in it." (Continuing) They created mankind, they created them man and woman. (Note at this point that they did not create Adam and Eve, two people, but that they created the whole human race.) Continuing on there was a seperate creation where God created a garden (Eden) and in it placed a man. (Note the singular usage, this is because in the original format the word used for 'God' is Yahweh or more accurately YHVH, the holy tetragrammaton, Yahweh being the english pronunciation of such. This is a singular name, which implies a specific god.) In said garden, and from said man, Yahweh created a woman (eve). They were blissfully stupid in the beginning. God placed also in the garden two trees one: 'the tree which bears the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil' and: 'the tree of eternal life' These two trees were forbidden to adam and eve, god said to the: "Thou shalt not eat of these two trees for on the day that you taste of their fruits, you will surely die." (Yes, this is paraphrasing, but it gets the point across.) Later, the snake (Supposedly lucifer/the devil/satan) came, and asked eve: "Did god truly forbid you to eat any of the fruit in eden?" To which Eve replied: "No, only the two in the center. He said that if we eat the fruit of these trees, we will surely die." Serpent: "No, you will not die, when you eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, on that day your eyes will be open, and you will be as gods yourselves." Skipping along, adam and eve eat of the fruit, and "When Adam and Eve ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, on that day their eyes were open, they eyes were opened, both of them" (That one is a direct quote from the bible. Though I don't recall the scripture number.) So, here we see that the serpent was right, skipping ahead, the bible continues to say that adam lived to be over 900 having many children. So, clearly he did not die on that day, nor for the following several centuries. Also, just after the eating of the "apple" God says: "Now they have knowledge of good and evil they are like us. They can not eat of the tree of eternal life or they will be as us." So, here we see God getting worried that his experiment is going to supercede him. So, he casts them out of eden and guards it with a flaming sword and cherubs. He also punishes them by making life difficult for them and all their descendants. So, here we see that yahweh is punishing them for something which they had no way of knowing was wrong. Yes, he forbid them of it, but they had no way of knowing that disobedience is wrong. So, here you see, that in the first book of the bible we already see a big trend starting: God Lied/was wrong. The serpent told the truth/was right. And, Yahweh punishes for something which was not the fault of Adam and Eve. And, Yahweh becomes fearful of the rest. Now, consider this: Pagans in general are good gardeners. (Or so I have seen in those around me) We do not have the difficulty of raising crops that was cast upon the descendants of Adam and Eve. Also, we do not have problems with nudity (Once again this is a generalization.) Could this be because we are still in the state of pre-"Apple ingestion"? Therefore not knowing that nudity is improper as deemed by Yahweh. Also important is that no where in the bible does Yahweh state that he is the only god, only that he is the foremost, the only one to be worshipped by his followers. He even goes so far as to sate the is "jealous". Thus implying something of which he would be jealous, i.e. other deities. So, there you go, sheep ammo. Let me know what you think.