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I agree, although I refer to the IS as the Creator, the concepts are the same.Phi said:To me the most primitive way of believing is to think there is only one way to what I will call the Originator of All Things. There is only one Originator of all things, but not only one way to reach out to O.
Here, you're beginning to lose me. I realize some people believe they create their own realities (except, of course, when it comes time to be held accountable for the realities they have created!), but because someone believes a specific view from a particular vantage does not mean that view is valid for everyone else. I guess what I am trying to say, is it possible that what you view as "gods and goddesses" are merely manifestations or eminations from the one true source? That, when all is said and done, all are actually one. Not part of one, ONE.I do believe that all the ways that one reaches out to a higher spirit is a way of reaching out to O. I do believe that O reaches out to each of us through whatever way we reach out to O. If we reach in darkness of our lesser emotions, we receive dark and troubling energies that may work against us to turn us toward the greater ones that lead to the gifts of the O. Therefore, I do believe that "goddesses and gods" bring some spiritual gifts and/or spiritual pain/powers, and are in this way both powerful and real.
OK, I'm back with you, the universal IS.For me O is the light and power behind all spiritual and earthly and universal and cosmological things, you see. It is always inadequate to describe O, but I am not one of those who believes that it is "sin" to try as long as one is careful not to deliberately mislead others into thinking that one knows all about O, or that O is only male, or that O is only female, or that O is only found in one way and in no other. I believe and am given that:
I'm losing you again. I'm a fervent believer in Paschal's wager. If I only get one life to lead my spirit by, I am much more inclined to live my life properly (provided I sincerely believe that I only get one chance to do things right, and I believe there is reward in afterlife, and live my life in accord with these things. Therefore, we are created as we are created, we are as we are, and we will be what we will ourselves to be." Males will be as females, and females will be as males through the birth of water(the waters of natural birth, water as earth element) and the spirit(the soul not of earth but of the Originator of all things, becoming incarnate into matter again): the cycles we must all endure in the finding of our connection to the Originator of all things. Therefore do not seek to rule over one another, but to understand one another, for you will be rewarded for your actions in another time.
But when we connect in fullness unto the Originator of all things, we have both male and female aspects of the psyche-soul, but are as light, and need not physical organs, so then we all both are and are not of male/female, and our organs return to the earth."
And now we're back on the same page again.However that being seen, and said, I most humbly do not seek to lead others to my way, but would help them withiin their own ways of seeking which is all that anyone can do. Each soul has its own way, we can only assist them in it, and love one another the while.
Actually, I think you are heading in the right direction. And then, who am I to say? Perhaps I am not heading in the right direction myself, but I travel the road I understand, and I make the most I can of the journey. Besides, laughter and enjoyment are some of the simple blessings, the ones we really create for ourselves, that we are entitled to as partial payment for our sojourn here in this experience.I feel no need to proselytize, and am not doing that here, simply attempting to explain as clearly as I can, that which is inexplicable...the O, and what it is for me.
And by the way I use O only because there is no adequate name, but the words "god" and "goddess" seem to denote a sexual meaning, and the O is all sexes and none. Other terms seem lacking too, having been used and abused. I easily respond to any other way that O might be described and do not advocate my O as the best way for anyone to describe it, but it works for me at the moment.