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from far far away
universal consciousness and the utility of mind
The universe is cyclic, i can be visualised as like a doughnut, the explosion starts in the middle and begins expanding outwards in all directions. in the aftermath of the explosion, during the cooldown, planets like earth are formed along with the stars etc. the nearer you are to the centre the quicker things cool down, so it will eventually become homogenous. the universe though is still expanding, so at first we see an explosion, which continues forever, then as the middle of the explosion becomes old it cools, and the entire explosion starts to ‘rot’ from the middle. the universe in this manner can repeat without ever ending, just changing all the time.
so universal consciousness would change according to the cycles, it evolves with evolution generally as indeed there is no other vehicle for its development. if we imagine that we could strip away all bodies [physical form] leaving behind all consciousness then that is how i see universal consciousness. in a void it would have the value of zero, however the universe is cyclic, so there has and always will be universal consciousness.
i am unsure as to what effects time would have e.g. over the course of many cycles of the universe, perhaps it would gain potentiality [experience?], more interestingly would it synchronise things in some way? it often seams to me that evolution and coincidence is very well thought out as is nature, but it is not thought as we know it, universal consciousness does not have a brain.
>does causality come into it ~ or it into causality?
i would see ‘consciousness’or mindfullness as beginning with the ocean of infinity i.e. 0. it is and must be everpresent and universal, a fertile egg possesses 0,1 from its earliest stages ~ and essentially nothing ever goes beyond that. the human brain makes a different utility of it, to say plankton or a rock ~ where inanimate objects have no possession or utility of it [=0]. i would see nature generally and the universe as being the result of a great utility of mind!
regions names and objects may somehow reflect extraneous personality [e.g. in astrology and national character], here though we meet that elusive element that concerns life itself and animation. it is as if life is trying to get through where ever it can, so if a ‘personality’ is built up e.g. by humans creating it, then universal mind finds a utility in it. the only difference between that and us is that we have it contained in physical form.
there seams to be something both in the name and the region, i wouldn’t say it is ‘consciousness’ yet i am unsure what it is. take for instance an english football club liverpool, mainly foreign players yet they are still liverpool, equally when they play in europe they beet teams that they would loose to at home ~ they are a european club with many successes in the past. this has to be built up to begin with but once there, i dunno there seams to be something there.
erm what am i saying; that areas attract certain kinds of people and that a rose is not a rose by any other name?
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ok here is one main point; if mind is found to be extraneous to the physical form, then its universality follows. the above is journey into that ‘what if’ scenario.
now try dissecting the brain to find consciousness ~ i just don’t see it in the flesh and snot [or the batteries {neurons are like}] of the brain itself, but that the brain is an instrument that makes use of the ocean of consciousness/mindfullness.
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and as concerns god and the gods.
well as a pagan i see that consciousness evolving and changing over time forming personalities which are then deified as part of the natural process [similar to us except without physical form].
as a monotheist [that i am not], then i would see the whole as being god consciousness. perhaps we can see something of the rapture in all of this, when the veil is lifted [revelations] and all becomes clear. this would be like a time when universal consciousness forms a kind of unity for a short time.
i don’t see why we it cannot be both in many ways of course.
{thanks to wonderer at ‘ilovephilosophy.com’ for the science}.
The universe is cyclic, i can be visualised as like a doughnut, the explosion starts in the middle and begins expanding outwards in all directions. in the aftermath of the explosion, during the cooldown, planets like earth are formed along with the stars etc. the nearer you are to the centre the quicker things cool down, so it will eventually become homogenous. the universe though is still expanding, so at first we see an explosion, which continues forever, then as the middle of the explosion becomes old it cools, and the entire explosion starts to ‘rot’ from the middle. the universe in this manner can repeat without ever ending, just changing all the time.
so universal consciousness would change according to the cycles, it evolves with evolution generally as indeed there is no other vehicle for its development. if we imagine that we could strip away all bodies [physical form] leaving behind all consciousness then that is how i see universal consciousness. in a void it would have the value of zero, however the universe is cyclic, so there has and always will be universal consciousness.
i am unsure as to what effects time would have e.g. over the course of many cycles of the universe, perhaps it would gain potentiality [experience?], more interestingly would it synchronise things in some way? it often seams to me that evolution and coincidence is very well thought out as is nature, but it is not thought as we know it, universal consciousness does not have a brain.
>does causality come into it ~ or it into causality?
i would see ‘consciousness’or mindfullness as beginning with the ocean of infinity i.e. 0. it is and must be everpresent and universal, a fertile egg possesses 0,1 from its earliest stages ~ and essentially nothing ever goes beyond that. the human brain makes a different utility of it, to say plankton or a rock ~ where inanimate objects have no possession or utility of it [=0]. i would see nature generally and the universe as being the result of a great utility of mind!
regions names and objects may somehow reflect extraneous personality [e.g. in astrology and national character], here though we meet that elusive element that concerns life itself and animation. it is as if life is trying to get through where ever it can, so if a ‘personality’ is built up e.g. by humans creating it, then universal mind finds a utility in it. the only difference between that and us is that we have it contained in physical form.
there seams to be something both in the name and the region, i wouldn’t say it is ‘consciousness’ yet i am unsure what it is. take for instance an english football club liverpool, mainly foreign players yet they are still liverpool, equally when they play in europe they beet teams that they would loose to at home ~ they are a european club with many successes in the past. this has to be built up to begin with but once there, i dunno there seams to be something there.
erm what am i saying; that areas attract certain kinds of people and that a rose is not a rose by any other name?
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ok here is one main point; if mind is found to be extraneous to the physical form, then its universality follows. the above is journey into that ‘what if’ scenario.
now try dissecting the brain to find consciousness ~ i just don’t see it in the flesh and snot [or the batteries {neurons are like}] of the brain itself, but that the brain is an instrument that makes use of the ocean of consciousness/mindfullness.
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and as concerns god and the gods.
well as a pagan i see that consciousness evolving and changing over time forming personalities which are then deified as part of the natural process [similar to us except without physical form].
as a monotheist [that i am not], then i would see the whole as being god consciousness. perhaps we can see something of the rapture in all of this, when the veil is lifted [revelations] and all becomes clear. this would be like a time when universal consciousness forms a kind of unity for a short time.
i don’t see why we it cannot be both in many ways of course.
{thanks to wonderer at ‘ilovephilosophy.com’ for the science}.
