Death is an illusion

[Alif Balaam Yashin]

That is the interesting part. We are made up of trillions of cells, Every cell in my body that has become me is a part of me, a fragment. I call the mind that lives within us a meand This mind contains a fragment of a religious person within it and then you standing face to face with himself. On the right side, god side you have to know who he is, center path you have to know why he is here, and the left path you have to know everything about everything here. You can see the right side you do not need to know anything other then who he is. The other two paths you have to figure things out. He can also be anything you think him to be he will try to become it to teach you nothing at all. The only path that leads you out to become yourself is the center path all other paths must rip themselves apart to become something again. Basically be yourself and be true to who you are, know thyself, do unto others as you wish them to do unto you, this is ourselves this is the center path.

Don't get me wrong there is a god he just needs to figure himself out. To explain this you have to understand the process needed for a mind to figure itself out. A mind(yourself , memra) normally does not figure itself out until it has nothing inside of it teaching itself things. With this understanding then god will not figure himself out until this universe is almost nothing here many billions of years from now, or there is somewhere else that became nothing here to awaken him, or this universe is not all that there is.

powessy

Having a degree in Neurotheosophy I do have a little understanding about the mind and religion.
What you just posted has me befuddled, as I don't know exactly what you are getting at.

Maybe, you could re-explain it in simpler terms?

 

[powessy]

Having a degree in Neurotheosophy I do have a little understanding about the mind and religion.
What you just posted has me befuddled, as I don't know exactly what you are getting at.

Maybe, you could re-explain it in simpler terms?

It would take maybe a hundred pages of text to try to explain how and why this happens. First I hear voices, not a word or two but thousands of conversations through out the day. I also use frontal thought genesis to speak to minds outside of myself. I experience full tactile sensations on all parts of my body mostly on my head and on many timelines.

Time may be the easiest way to explain this. from the moment you start to become yourself in your mothers womb you are becoming time here. Every cell that becomes you here is yourself here, at first you are much more time becoming you here and not much cell death at all. I think of all things as running out of time until they/we cannot become itself/ourselves here. your whole life you are eating and growing and replacing cells until you are no longer here, acruing time all along the way.

So what happens to this time? When there is enough time, a yourself/mind/memra will figure your time out and figure you out this is said to happen at around 13 teen or so, under normal situations. When the yourself figures you out many other things then can also start to figure you out and try to become you and them together. funny that they figure us out just as we are figuring ourselves out and becoming us together as we are trying to learn who we are. Each mind that becomes us and them together are minds slowly teaching us nothing about nothing here(the veil).
Meands use time leftover to figure us out and then find time inside of us to allow us to become something in the veil. I believe the meands are time left over from what some might call the matrix, I call it myself. Not even the matrix more like "ready player one" but with hundreds of worlds together. The meands allow you to become almost anything imaginable. The meand enters into your mind and figures you out giving you that once in a lifetime out of body experience, but himself is inside of you waiting and enters the meand at the same time. Himself becomes nothing inside of you inside of the meand making it impossible for it to become you again.

Himselves primary purpose is to teach you who he is religion, or everything about everything here hell. You see how sins and virtues are hand in hand so he will/can be both evil and good to keep you from becoming ourselves. This is why religion is a trap of the mind, religion should teach you about god and it should teach you why we are here and teach you how to become yourself and figure yourself out.

so why religion? It is not just religion it was good, evil, ourselves and innocents to do something not knowing anything about anything at all. it is part of judgments and it is the third timeline, we will judge ourselves.

powessy

 

[Alif Balaam Yashin]

It would take maybe a hundred pages of text to try to explain how and why this happens. First I hear voices, not a word or two but thousands of conversations through out the day. I also use frontal thought genesis to speak to minds outside of myself. I experience full tactile sensations on all parts of my body mostly on my head and on many timelines.

Time may be the easiest way to explain this. from the moment you start to become yourself in your mothers womb you are becoming time here. Every cell that becomes you here is yourself here, at first you are much more time becoming you here and not much cell death at all. I think of all things as running out of time until they/we cannot become itself/ourselves here. your whole life you are eating and growing and replacing cells until you are no longer here, acruing time all along the way.

So what happens to this time? When there is enough time, a yourself/mind/memra will figure your time out and figure you out this is said to happen at around 13 teen or so, under normal situations. When the yourself figures you out many other things then can also start to figure you out and try to become you and them together. funny that they figure us out just as we are figuring ourselves out and becoming us together as we are trying to learn who we are. Each mind that becomes us and them together are minds slowly teaching us nothing about nothing here(the veil).
Meands use time leftover to figure us out and then find time inside of us to allow us to become something in the veil. I believe the meands are time left over from what some might call the matrix, I call it myself. Not even the matrix more like "ready player one" but with hundreds of worlds together. The meands allow you to become almost anything imaginable. The meand enters into your mind and figures you out giving you that once in a lifetime out of body experience, but himself is inside of you waiting and enters the meand at the same time. Himself becomes nothing inside of you inside of the meand making it impossible for it to become you again.

Himselves primary purpose is to teach you who he is religion, or everything about everything here hell. You see how sins and virtues are hand in hand so he will/can be both evil and good to keep you from becoming ourselves. This is why religion is a trap of the mind, religion should teach you about god and it should teach you why we are here and teach you how to become yourself and figure yourself out.

so why religion? It is not just religion it was good, evil, ourselves and innocents to do something not knowing anything about anything at all. it is part of judgments and it is the third timeline, we will judge ourselves.

powessy

Hmm . . . interesting, I'll need to digest this reply before commenting

 

[otherbrother]

The veil, as you say, the world of forms, the multitudinous 'I's, the multitudinous instances of contingent selfhood, and in that sense is a theophany which, in the Hindu Tradition, is referred to as Maya.

Reminds me of individual thoughts within mind-as-a-whole or Mind Itself. Each thought is a frame that acts as a lens, and cannot fully grasp the whole-shebang. We are like God’s thoughts?

 

[Thomas]

Reminds me of individual thoughts within mind-as-a-whole or Mind Itself. Each thought is a frame that acts as a lens, and cannot fully grasp the whole-shebang. We are like God’s thoughts?

I don't think God thinks ... at least, not as we do, as 'thought' is a temporal process.

But having said that, a classical statement of the Divine is the 'All-Possible' and we exist in 'the mind of God', if you will, as a possibility, but if you follow the original concept, then the All-Possible does not need a 'mind' as such.

Say, for instance, God is pure being – pure being-ness, and from that being-ness emerges all manner of beings, from universes to the merest element of something, teetering on the edge of non-existence.

Some of those beings will possess the faculty of mind, and some will not, but being-ness, being prior to all, possesses all faculties within itself in an undifferentiated manner – being-ness is not a composite, nor even the sum of all possible beings, then in the end the only thing being-ness possesses, akin to all and every other being, is being itself ... everything else is subsequent and contingent.

The difference between 'contingent mind (or 'being')' and 'subsistent mind' (or 'being') is that the former seeks its source and origin, whereas the latter knows itself without reserve and without condition – then it's hard to conceive of a God as 'thinking' because that involves a change of state, and it is axiomatic of the Absolute God that God is One and Simple and Changeless ...

 

[TheLightWithin]

I don't think God thinks ... at least, not as we do, as 'thought' is a temporal process.

then it's hard to conceive of a God as 'thinking' because that involves a change of state, and it is axiomatic of the Absolute God that God is One and Simple and Changeless ...

Is thinking different from having thoughts? You could argue that God does have thoughts, that's scriptural, and it does say they are different:

Isaiah 55:8-9

8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

 

[TheLightWithin]

'the mind of God', if you will, as a possibility, but if you follow the original concept, then the All-Possible does not need a 'mind' as such.

But the Wisdom of God - that's something too isn't it? Is there wisdom without thought and mind? Or at least, don't those ideas just seem to go together?

I always liked the metaphysical concept of God AS Mind, "The Universal Mind" is sometimes used, a concept I find very relatable and more dynamic than ideas about God that come up in something like, say Deism, where they don't say much at all about God having ongoing thoughts.

But a Universal Mind, would not bring to mind God hearing and contemplating prayers? The Supreme Being who IS Mind, who brought all things into being with thought...just contemplating the idea of divine thought leads to remembering concepts like logos, memra, sphota maybe (which is a Hindu concept which I think has similarities, still learning)

 

[Aupmanyav]

I tend to think that if you connect to a deep zone within your being as you “practice “ the religion, then it probably leads to more personal integration or wholeness, which also lends itself to creating a more harmonious culture. But we have trouble operating from a deep zone, so the superficiality contaminates religion and culture.
I believe that interconnectedness occurs naturally in the depths of self, where one may be said to realize his/her True Self.

Nice, though our view points are different (Theism vs. atheism).
Our true-self is the universe itself. Everything arose from what the football contained and the Bang.

 

[powessy]

Hmm . . . interesting, I'll need to digest this reply before commenting

I found this image, I think I can use it to better explain what I am saying. I would call this a peacock, he is many more minds then you to figure things out, he has more time then you to become himself here, he can teach you so many more things then you can teach him. I will explain his plumage the snakes on top are timelines he has been on all seven timelines to figure himself out, the inner, outer and five main timelines. On the next layer of his plumage are men(themselves) themselves are not ourselves so they cannot become him, they are stretched out like that and not stacked, if they can figure themselves out then they can teach you many things but you have to figure it out first. The reason most images from before christianity display things in the after/veil as themselves is so nothing will become them there. Next we need to look at the man or himself he is according to his yourselves a warrior he is many times a warrior then anything else. The yourselves are not ourselves the yourselves I call them mitochondrial yourselves and they can become you if they can figure you out. This image shows herself inside of himself so i would say he teaches her many things and he thinks about her a lot.

As for your/the god mind it tries to become you here first and will try to teach you inside of yourself as part of himself if he can teach you the right or left hand thinking or anything else that will allow his yourselves to become you, he only needs to become more time then you to become yourself here.

This is what I mean when I say I have minds on my mind.

I hope this makes more sense.

powessy

 

[Thomas]

Is thinking different from having thoughts? You could argue that God does have thoughts, that's scriptural, and it does say they are different:

That's my point – God's 'thoughts' are not like ours.

And then we have other understandings of God – as Unmoved Mover, as First Cause and Itself Uncaused, as One and Simple ... as omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent ... and from that viewpoint I have no idea how God 'thinks' at all, in that He knows all He knows ...

 

[Thomas]

But the Wisdom of God - that's something too isn't it? Is there wisdom without thought and mind? Or at least, don't those ideas just seem to go together?

To us ... it's how we rationalise God.

I always liked the metaphysical concept of God AS Mind, "The Universal Mind" is sometimes used, a concept I find very relatable and more dynamic than ideas about God that come up in something like, say Deism, where they don't say much at all about God having ongoing thoughts.

OK

But a Universal Mind, would not bring to mind God hearing and contemplating prayers? The Supreme Being who IS Mind, who brought all things into being with thought...just contemplating the idea of divine thought leads to remembering concepts like logos, memra, sphota maybe (which is a Hindu concept which I think has similarities, still learning)

As ever, I place Being as prior to Mind ... which might sound like semantics, but it helps me, at least, to avoid, as much as I can, anthropological assumptions of the Divine.

 

[Alif Balaam Yashin]

It would take maybe a hundred pages of text to try to explain how and why this happens. First I hear voices, not a word or two but thousands of conversations through out the day. I also use frontal thought genesis to speak to minds outside of myself. I experience full tactile sensations on all parts of my body mostly on my head and on many timelines.

If you are hearing 'thousands' of conversations throughout the day, you need to seek professional help.
Auditory hallucinations are correlated with abnormal activation patterns in auditory cortex regions of the brain. This suggests that the brain may be generating internal perceptions that are perceived as external sounds.
Abnormalities in the temporal lobes, particularly the Superior Temporal Gyrus (STG), have been observed in patients experiencing auditory hallucinations. These areas are critical for processing auditory information. Normally processes external sounds. In those experiencing hallucinations, the STG activates without external stimuli, suggesting the brain is generating its own sounds and misattributing their origin.

Time may be the easiest way to explain this. from the moment you start to become yourself in your mothers womb you are becoming time here. Every cell that becomes you here is yourself here, at first you are much more time becoming you here and not much cell death at all. I think of all things as running out of time until they/we cannot become itself/ourselves here. your whole life you are eating and growing and replacing cells until you are no longer here, acruing time all along the way.

We are born as 'self', a mundane version of 'Self', we have already 'Become', now we need to unveil who we 'Are'

So what happens to this time? When there is enough time, a yourself/mind/memra will figure your time out and figure you out this is said to happen at around 13 teen or so, under normal situations. When the yourself figures you out many other things then can also start to figure you out and try to become you and them together. funny that they figure us out just as we are figuring ourselves out and becoming us together as we are trying to learn who we are. Each mind that becomes us and them together are minds slowly teaching us nothing about nothing here(the veil).
Meands use time leftover to figure us out and then find time inside of us to allow us to become something in the veil. I believe the meands are time left over from what some might call the matrix, I call it myself. Not even the matrix more like "ready player one" but with hundreds of worlds together. The meands allow you to become almost anything imaginable. The meand enters into your mind and figures you out giving you that once in a lifetime out of body experience, but himself is inside of you waiting and enters the meand at the same time. Himself becomes nothing inside of you inside of the meand making it impossible for it to become you again.

TIME is an illusion of the Objective Universe, it doesn't really exist, it only exists through perception and relativity.

Himselves primary purpose is to teach you who he is religion, or everything about everything here hell. You see how sins and virtues are hand in hand so he will/can be both evil and good to keep you from becoming ourselves. This is why religion is a trap of the mind, religion should teach you about god and it should teach you why we are here and teach you how to become yourself and figure yourself out.

Sin is a weapon used by certain religious faiths and cults. Every Sin has its virtue.
SEVEN LIFE-GIVING SINS 0f The Western Left Hand Path

1. Pride: Pride is a virtue, promoting self-esteem and self-worth. Pride motivates individuals to achieve greatness and a sense of achievement in their accomplishments.

2. Envy: Envy can be a motivating force, driving people to improve themselves and attain their desires. Envy encourages ambition and the pursuit of personal goals.

3. Gluttony: Gluttony is a natural indulgence. Enjoying life’s pleasures without guilt is encouraged, as long as it does not harm oneself or others.

4. Lust: Lust is a natural human desire. Embracing one's sexual desires and seeking consensual pleasure without shame is advocated.

5. Anger: Anger, when controlled and directed, can be a powerful force for change and self-assertion. It helps individuals stand up for themselves and protect personal boundaries.

6. Greed: Greed is a driving force for personal success and prosperity. It encourages individuals to strive for material wealth and improve their circumstances.

7. Sloth: Sloth is the avoidance of unnecessary labor. Efficiency and finding easier, more effective ways to accomplish tasks are advocated over unproductive effort.

so why religion? It is not just religion it was good, evil, ourselves and innocents to do something not knowing anything about anything at all. it is part of judgments and it is the third timeline, we will judge ourselves.

powessy

Good & Evil are Subjective constructs, they also do not exist other than through our Subjective Universe.
One Man's Good Will Always Be Another Man's Evil

 

[Alif Balaam Yashin]

I don't think God thinks ... at least, not as we do, as 'thought' is a temporal process.

But having said that, a classical statement of the Divine is the 'All-Possible' and we exist in 'the mind of God', if you will, as a possibility, but if you follow the original concept, then the All-Possible does not need a 'mind' as such.

Say, for instance, God is pure being – pure being-ness, and from that being-ness emerges all manner of beings, from universes to the merest element of something, teetering on the edge of non-existence.

Some of those beings will possess the faculty of mind, and some will not, but being-ness, being prior to all, possesses all faculties within itself in an undifferentiated manner – being-ness is not a composite, nor even the sum of all possible beings, then in the end the only thing being-ness possesses, akin to all and every other being, is being itself ... everything else is subsequent and contingent.

The difference between 'contingent mind (or 'being')' and 'subsistent mind' (or 'being') is that the former seeks its source and origin, whereas the latter knows itself without reserve and without condition – then it's hard to conceive of a God as 'thinking' because that involves a change of state, and it is axiomatic of the Absolute God that God is One and Simple and Changeless ...

Thoughts originating from complex brain interactions is certainly the current understanding however, from a purely spiritual standpoint, specific thought could possibly originate from one's Greater Self/GodSelf as opposed to your 'mind of god' theory.

 

[otherbrother]

A "yourself" is all the time it can figure out or it has become.

Implied here (I think) is that Universal Mind, as it becomes manifest as a link between mind and physical reality in which time and space play out or are perceived/experienced, creates its own time. To the extent that our regular minds retain some glimmer (lower intensity, as parts of a hologram are lower resolution versions of the whole image), then we, when most deeply mindful, may actually distort, alter, or even make/create time. Or, as you seem to imply, when we thin our veils.
Although I didn’t understand your words, my mind heard some of the sounds and has been subconsciously and semi consciously processing the impression since then.
One of the ways it processed was life experiences that gave me a sense that I was meant to stop everything and do what I was meant to do, which, as a Christian, also was to do what God inspired me to do. Being seized by blessings, unexpectedly serving others in time of need, participating in a mass social justice march, recalling how my whole wonderful and long marriage was totally sensed in the minutes my then date lay her head on my shoulder and other meaningful life experiences (such holding my first grandchild in my mind before he was born, recalling how a vision of healing came to me when my youngest son was in a coma, although those two were not specifically/consciously recalled) that all happened right now, all at once, just before and during taking communion. A high energy state (kundalini overload?) occurred as Karos time entered into chronos time.
I had a similar past-meets-present high energy state during a previous communion ritual.
All this to say that something is thinning my veil. With it comes a sense that I might be nearing death. But I have had other rounds of impending death sense that came and went without actually dying, so I am open to the possibility or even probability that it is a useful trick my mind plays on me to help me grow spiritually.

 

[powessy]

If you are hearing 'thousands' of conversations throughout the day, you need to seek professional help.
Auditory hallucinations are correlated with abnormal activation patterns in auditory cortex regions of the brain. This suggests that the brain may be generating internal perceptions that are perceived as external sounds.
Abnormalities in the temporal lobes, particularly the Superior Temporal Gyrus (STG), have been observed in patients experiencing auditory hallucinations. These areas are critical for processing auditory information. Normally processes external sounds. In those experiencing hallucinations, the STG activates without external stimuli, suggesting the brain is generating its own sounds and misattributing their origin.


We are born as 'self', a mundane version of 'Self', we have already 'Become', now we need to unveil who we 'Are'

TIME is an illusion of the Objective Universe, it doesn't really exist, it only exists through perception and relativity.

Sin is a weapon used by certain religious faiths and cults. Every Sin has its virtue.
SEVEN LIFE-GIVING SINS 0f The Western Left Hand Path

1. Pride: Pride is a virtue, promoting self-esteem and self-worth. Pride motivates individuals to achieve greatness and a sense of achievement in their accomplishments.

2. Envy: Envy can be a motivating force, driving people to improve themselves and attain their desires. Envy encourages ambition and the pursuit of personal goals.

3. Gluttony: Gluttony is a natural indulgence. Enjoying life’s pleasures without guilt is encouraged, as long as it does not harm oneself or others.

4. Lust: Lust is a natural human desire. Embracing one's sexual desires and seeking consensual pleasure without shame is advocated.

5. Anger: Anger, when controlled and directed, can be a powerful force for change and self-assertion. It helps individuals stand up for themselves and protect personal boundaries.

6. Greed: Greed is a driving force for personal success and prosperity. It encourages individuals to strive for material wealth and improve their circumstances.

7. Sloth: Sloth is the avoidance of unnecessary labor. Efficiency and finding easier, more effective ways to accomplish tasks are advocated over unproductive effort.

Good & Evil are Subjective constructs, they also do not exist other than through our Subjective Universe.
One Man's Good Will Always Be Another Man's Evil

You are not the only educated person here seeking some sort of answers, nothing you stated above other then the sins is factual, the rest is only your own personal truths. I spent years seeking through forums before coming here years ago looking for answers to the voices I hear. Almost the entire bible was written by people who heard voices or were completely crazy, I am also leaning towards crazy.

time is all around you how is that an illusion, next time you find yourself in trouble just say time is an illusion and see if that gets you anywhere. You are not being judged by god you are being judged by those that seeded this world first. the mitochondria in your body are the reason no one has become anything after this life time this is referred to as "yourself is not yourself". You keep believing what you want about constructs and all that other stuff that seems to get you through the day.

When you die you have to become yourself only, like the transporter device in the fly, the mitochondria, each and every one of them will also go through this process but not inside of yourself. Once they are not inside of yourself they cannot become you again, period. What happens when you have no mitochondria in your body is not a pretty sight I would imagine.

This is my main reason for coming back to this sight as the problem I am trying to figure out is "here, here, here". This could be "father, son, holy ghost, or it could be the three brains, brain, heart, stomach. It could be the three minds as we evolved which I think it is, this is "strength of mind and body", "ability to overcome all obstacles", and "see things before they happen in the future. Anyway I will figure it out as they will not leave me alone until I do.

The ancients created the timelines to test us. This saying is one of the most important to understand, " you have to become something here many times to become something here all the time". So just how many yourselves will it take before the ancients can become themselves here. I always imagine this like a pot which needs to be filled before they can become themselves here. The reason for this is so no one can travel through nothing here(no time) and rip you out of your body to become you.

There are three main problems in the veil and these problems along with time leftover creates overlaps in things making it impossible to navigate the veil. The god the one in the bible and religion tried to rip what the ancients did apart to figure it out and this just made a much bigger mess then anything. The image I posted before is another problem that will rip anything apart that does not know who he is first and that my friend is not your god or your devil or anything else you have ever understood.

I do not care what others believe, I am only trying get through this problem. Good luck to ya.

powessy

 

[powessy]

Implied here (I think) is that Universal Mind, as it becomes manifest as a link between mind and physical reality in which time and space play out or are perceived/experienced, creates its own time. To the extent that our regular minds retain some glimmer (lower intensity, as parts of a hologram are lower resolution versions of the whole image), then we, when most deeply mindful, may actually distort, alter, or even make/create time. Or, as you seem to imply, when we thin our veils.
Although I didn’t understand your words, my mind heard some of the sounds and has been subconsciously and semi consciously processing the impression since then.
One of the ways it processed was life experiences that gave me a sense that I was meant to stop everything and do what I was meant to do, which, as a Christian, also was to do what God inspired me to do. Being seized by blessings, unexpectedly serving others in time of need, participating in a mass social justice march, recalling how my whole wonderful and long marriage was totally sensed in the minutes my then date lay her head on my shoulder and other meaningful life experiences (such holding my first grandchild in my mind before he was born, recalling how a vision of healing came to me when my youngest son was in a coma, although those two were not specifically/consciously recalled) that all happened right now, all at once, just before and during taking communion. A high energy state (kundalini overload?) occurred as Karos time entered into chronos time.
I had a similar past-meets-present high energy state during a previous communion ritual.
All this to say that something is thinning my veil. With it comes a sense that I might be nearing death. But I have had other rounds of impending death sense that came and went without actually dying, so I am open to the possibility or even probability that it is a useful trick my mind plays on me to help me grow spiritually.

I am a father of 4, and a husband for almost 30 years now. I spent five years in college with a concentration in computer science and electrical engineering. I spent three years in the military prior to college. I don't do anything to alter my mind or perception of the world I love life and all it has to offer. I have had thousands of out of body experiences and astral experiences prior to the voices I hear, 12 years ago.

Time is said to be all things that we perceive around us. As things become nothing here they are said to lose time not change or anything. They say as things lose time they just go inside of themselves to become something again just less time. You can go inside of yourself until there is no time and you are no longer able to figure anything out. Chances are the atoms in your body have done this many times since the beginning of time, memories may exist more so in some atoms then others.

I believe that God only wishes that you be true to yourself, I know as we near death that things will be very silent as minds stop trying to figure you out or teach you things.

good luck to you


powessy

 

[Thomas]

We are born as 'self', a mundane version of 'Self', we have already 'Become', now we need to unveil who we 'Are'

Wholeheartedly agree.

TIME is an illusion of the Objective Universe, it doesn't really exist, it only exists through perception and relativity.

Conditional agreement. Time is a reality within this particular cosmos. it's an inevitable and inescapable aspect of finitude, as is contingency.

It's also an inevitable reality as far as the individual self, an instance of being, is concerned, as we are a particular instance in relation to other particular instances. These instances include those who were here and are no longer, those who are coincidental with us and known, those who are coincidental and unknown, and those who are yet to be.

Having said that, outside of those conditions, in the eschaton, in spiritual realms, we are outside of time and space.

Sin is a weapon used by certain religious faiths and cults.

Perhaps so, but sin as such is a universal concept so is not the product of 'religious faiths and cults', but was derived through rational observation of phenomena – so I would say an understanding of sin requires a more profound insight.

The term sin is Old English, but derives from the biblical concept, from the Hebrew khata and its Greek hamartia, both terms mean 'to miss the mark' or 'to err', and while commonly defined as an archery term (to miss the target) the Classical Greek term in Poetics, in subjective terms infers a fault or flaw in an individual's character that leads to their failure or downfall.

By the same token, the practice of virtue can also be used detrimentally to the actual good – fasting, as a physical discipline, for example, can lead to self-harm if carried too far.

Every Sin has its virtue.

And vice versa, because everything is a matter of balance. What marks a vice is an excess which becomes detrimental to that balance and leads to disorder.

SEVEN LIFE-GIVING SINS 0f The Western Left Hand Path

This is a contradictory statement, because were they 'life-giving' according to the LHP they would be virtues.

The list of definitions 'miss the point' (if you'll excuse the pun) as you're emphasising beneficial aspects which are not condemned, indeed they are for the most part promoted, by the RHP traditions. What the list does not address is the particular aspect that determines the practice as a vice, rather than a virtue.

One Man's Good Will Always Be Another Man's Evil

That's an over simplification. Rather it's a matter of context. What might be good for that One Man might be ill for him in another circumstance.

 

[Thomas]

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I found this image, I think I can use it to better explain what I am saying. I would call this a peacock, he is many more minds then you to figure things out, he has more time then you to become himself here, he can teach you so many more things then you can teach him...

This is an image of the many names of the one deity. The point I would make here is the point of religion is to pass beyond the many names to a union with the One, the source and origin of all.

I will explain his plumage the snakes on top are timelines he has been on all seven timelines to figure himself out...

The One has no need to 'figure himself out' as the One exists beyond time and any temporal condition – the One is utterly and entirely Itself, and the One's self-knowledge is as Infinite and All-Knowing as the One is ... to learn or to know implies increase and change, whereas the One can neither increase nor decrease, grow nor decay ... the One is the timeless Is.

 

[Thomas]

@Alif Balaam Yashin – If you choose to discuss the Seven Sins, I suggest we do so on the LHP board.

 

[Alif Balaam Yashin]

@Alif Balaam Yashin – If you choose to discuss the Seven Sins, I suggest we do so on the LHP board.

Why? I get non-LHP comments on the LHP board, particularly from you. Seems a tad hypocritical.