OK, last post, for sure this time.
LOL! Either what I say is interesting, or you must be bored.
No. I thought everybody should be like me, that I was always right and never wrong. Then I found God, then I thought everybody should be like me, that I was always right and never wrong because God is always right and never wrong. And then God slapped me upside the head and showed me just how wrong I can be!
Very nicely said! I agree with what you said there. But, here's the difference with you and myself. I am not teaching something new, or telling people my own thoughts. Rather, Im telling what has already been said in the Bible by God. I guess you can say Im plagiarizing God's words. All that said, I guess this goes back to what I've said before - I believe the Bible is God's true words.
Yes, and your point is?
I dont know! What did I say before?
Now you are putting words in my mouth. Have you seen yet, how you misconstrue things people say? I have seen you misinterpret many times, not just me, but others too. If you are capable of misinterpreting me, don't you think that maybe, just maybe, you might misinterpret the Bible too? And as for believing you know the mind of God...be very careful, dear friend. If you have actually read the Bible, the same one you thump on, then you know intimately that that is blasphemous.
I think you're misunderstanding what I write? This is so much easier in person. Im almost tempted to send you a recording, that you may know exactly what Im saying. All that said, let me say this: I do not claim to know the mind of God, just what he has revealed to us in his word, nothing more!
I don't pretend. My lessons come from the same source you claim, the Bible.
I thought you might say that. I guess we should discuss the Bible. Obviously one of us is wrong, as truth cannot be relative - we both cant be right. Right?
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Will you never take God on his words?
Will you?
LOL! Im guessing your really sleepy here? Seriously though, I have taken God on his words, and have come to see the truth - Jesus the Christ is the ONLY way to God, because he has paid the price for our breaking God's Laws, and has freed us from the penility of the Law.
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What I mean is this: The Bible claims to be the VERY WORD of God, and begs a person to test it to see if its true. It asks that you read, study, and believe its claims. And, when you do that, while asking God to reveal truth, the Bible says God will prove his truth to you.
Did it ever occur to you that you are preaching to the choir?
Yes, most definitly! But, there are times when Im like, "Whoa..This guy went left on me...I thought he was agreeing, but I guess I was wrong?" Im sorry if Im wrong, but you continually give me the impression that you do not believe that Jesus is the ONLY way to God.
Apparently you do not think you are speaking with someone who knows just a little bit more than you...With all of the love and respect I can muster, son, you're still wet behind the ears. You're still drinking milk, and I've been chewing on meat for years. No disrespect, you're not even in the same ballpark. I'm doing my best to bring you up to speed, but you're fighting it the whole way. Give the controls over to God, stop trying to do it all yourself.
No offense taken! But, I have to laugh though. Not at you, I just thought what you said was very funny! Good one!! That out the way, lets discuss the core fundaments of the Bible. Again, I wish to show you where you've been in err for 25 years.
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why would you go on thinking that you know what God wants, when you're just a man?
That is the question I asked of you. I know what God wants me to do, what He wants all of His children to do. But I do not pretend to know what goes on in His mind. For you to imply you do, when your little pea brain and my little pea brain together aren't big enough to hold a tiny fraction of His thought?
I agree with you here - I dont know the mind of God. I just know what he wants me to do. Again, he revealed it in his word. He wants me to preach the truth to all that they will believe and come to the Savior, that they may be forgiven of their sins, and have eternal life.
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Will a finite man, without a reverlation from God, ever know what an infinite God wants of him?
A revelation from God? Are you saying you hear voices in your head? If not, and you mean the revelation of God's word, the Bible, it is still YOUR INTERPRETATION of what the word says. Have you considered that maybe, just maybe, YOUR INTERPRETATION may not be the correct one? I think of that, everyday. I hone my sword sparring with people like you for fun.
Yelling are we? I hope you're not getting fustrated with me. I ask that you have patience with me, as you know, I've only been walking with the Lord for 2 years now. That said, I've heard the "maybe you're interpreatation wrong" statement many times by people who dont know what the Bible says. I'll tell you what I've told them - "I do not interprete the Bible. Instead, I let the scritptures interprete themselves. And, with the help of the Holy Spirit, I know the truth that God wants me to know, because it lines up with his words in scripture. In 25 years of reading the Bible, have you actually found out what exactly the Bible reveals?
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But ofcourse, this is just my own thoughts and beliefs, based off a book that claims to be God's words. And, you know what? I could in fact be wrong!
I see the words, but I don't think you mean them. You do not fully appreciate, down to your marrow, what your words mean. That much is evident all through your posts. Even if we accept the English Bible as infallible, it is still subject to our individual interpretation. Two examples (answer them both correctly and I'll get off your case): What does the word "divers", as found in the King James Bible, mean? Jacques Cousteau it ain't. Why are the words in italics?
Of course I could be wrong. Just because I dont believe I am wrong, doesnt mean that I dont consider the possiblity of me being wrong. You know? That said, I have no idea what you're talking about with "divers" and "Jacques Cousteau." Whats your point? About the Bible being subject to indivisual interpretation though. Yes, I agree. And, I believe this is the mistake people make when reading the Bible. The Bible is not a book to be subjected to human reasoning, or interpration. Rather, it is the plain truth that God wants us to know. If we truely are born again, the Bible says, we will KNOW what God wants us to know. This is a supernatual occurence given to us by a supernatual God, when we become born again. If we're not born again, we'll vainly go about thinking we know what God says. PLEASE NOTE: Im NOT IN ANYWAY insinuating that you're not born agian. Im not in the business of judging someone's salvation. That said, I do believe you have somethings very twisted!
OK all that said, I have a request. Can you and I discuss the Bible? I want to see what your thoughts are on the core essientials, e.g., Jesus being the only way to God, the Godhead (Trinity), Salvation through grace, Heaven, hell, etc. If you want, we can start with discussing Jesus being the only way to God.
Thanks!
