Reading with New Eyes, Hearing with New Ears

Tone Bristow-Stagg said:
Yes it is all about choice. I also see it is not about being superior. When the sun rises each day, we do not say it is superior to the sun of yesterday.
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Ok. But the implication becomes that Jews should have accepted Christianity as the new revelation, and then Christians should have accepted Islam as the new revelation? But there are major problems with this proposal
 
RJM said:
Ok. But the implication becomes that Jews should have accepted Christianity as the new revelation, and then Christians should have accepted Islam as the new revelation? But there are major problems with this proposal
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You are correct in that is indeed the implication, but at the same time, we know the Bible gave prophecy that this would not happen, as it talks of the end of the age Messiah that will come to unite all the sheep of God. Only God is all knowing.

This is because faith is a choice. If one does see that the Revelation of Muhammad is foretold, how would they then view that Message? Same for the Messages for the Bab and Baha'u'llah?

Regards Tony
 
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Theosophy says:

[9.] Before the Soul can see, the Harmony within must be attained, and fleshly eyes be rendered blind to all illusion.

[10.] Before the Soul can hear, the image (man) has to become as deaf to roarings as to whispers, to cries of bellowing elephants as to the silvery buzzing of the golden fire-fly.

-HPB, Voice of the Silence page 2
 
RJM said:
A non-starter, imo -- that requires Christians to accept Islam as a new and better revelation
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There is an old joke, how God created the (insert followers of any post-Christian Abrahamic faith) so the Christians would know how the Jews felt... :)
 
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Cino said:
There is an old joke, how God created the (insert followers of any post-Christian Abrahamic faith) so the Christians would know how the Jews felt... :)
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Well, that's it: "C'mon everybody, let's all just be reasonable and see things my way"
_Hermes_ said:
Theosophy says:

[9.] Before the Soul can see, the Harmony within must be attained, and fleshly eyes be rendered blind to all illusion.

[10.] Before the Soul can hear, the image (man) has to become as deaf to roarings as to whispers, to cries of bellowing elephants as to the silvery buzzing of the golden fire-fly.

-HPB, Voice of the Silence page 2
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Have you read 'The Secret Doctrine'? I read it through many years ago. Blavatsky is powerful.
 
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RJM said:
A non-starter, imo -- that requires Christians to accept Islam as a new and better revelation
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How about we consider that it was promised by Jesus Christ as a necessary lesson from God to enable us to embrace the Day of God.


I see Muhammad gave some important information in the Quran about the Message of Jesus the Christ.

Such is the quandaries we face.

Regards Tony
 
_Hermes_ said:
[9.] Before the Soul can see, the Harmony within must be attained, and fleshly eyes be rendered blind to all illusion
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Nice quotes.

"Verily I say, the world is like the vapor in a desert, which the thirsty dreameth to be water and striveth after it with all his might, until when he cometh unto it, he findeth it to be mere illusion. It may, moreover, be likened unto the lifeless image of the beloved whom the lover hath sought and found, in the end, after long search and to his utmost regret, to be such as cannot "fatten nor appease his hunger."

Bahá’u’lláh, Gleanings from the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 328-329

Regards Tony
 
RJM said:
What important information?
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I see the Message given by Muhammad was in part given to explain the Station of Jesus the Christ in relation to God, that by then had been embraced under a teaching called the Trinity. That doctrine ended up being enforced by heresy.

This doctrine has bound many to a teaching that is not found in the Bible, if anyone says anything different, then any modern day Christian will immediately reject it without any just consideration of any other view.

That Jesus is not God, is seen as immediate blasphemy. Yet I see it is has become the most important key to acceptance of the Day of God.

Regards Tony
 
Tone Bristow-Stagg said:
I see the Message given by Muhammad was in part given to explain the Station of Jesus the Christ in relation to God, that by then had been embraced under a teaching called the Trinity. That doctrine ended up being enforced by heresy.

This doctrine has bound many to a teaching that is not found in the Bible, if anyone says anything different, then any modern day Christian will immediately reject it without any just consideration of any other view.

That Jesus is not God, is seen as immediate blasphemy. Yet I see it is has become the most important key to acceptance of the Day of God.

Regards Tony
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This is the Islamic view. Others differ
 
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RJM said:
Fair enough. It's a minefield, sure you agree.There have been several threads as you know :)
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I see it is a field humanity is currently traversing. When we get out the other side, we will wonder why the heck we did not work together to solve the problem and also be embarrassed to find there was a map.

Regards Tony
 
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