Belief, faith and evidence.

[wil]

I have been accused and just might be wimpy spiritually....definitely religiously wimpy.

I dont follow anyone's rules, dogma or tradition.

I follow whatever portions resonate of everyone's tradition but dance to no particular drummer or beat.

I light or blow out a candle based on needs or whim in the moment...this veggie dont need a rule book to tell me not to kill...or that eating animals or organs that clean and filter water may not be the best for ya.

There is discussion of metaphor and I believe some metaphor is metaphor me and others metaphor you and it all changes based on the time and your life and experiences.

There is what we know...and that may change as new info is presented...and what we believe...which by definition is something we dont know....something for some reason we have faith it is worth believing or we believe to be true.

This is why I will get involved in discussions of allegory and parables and metaphor and glean benefit from turning water into wine or virgin births but will not be attached to them.

Why knowingly base my spirituality on something which could be proven wrong? That is right I unknowingly base my spirituality on a lack of belief and faith.

 

[muhammad_isa]

..I unknowingly base my spirituality on a lack of belief and faith.

..while I, knowingly, base my spirituality on a strong belief in G-d, as in the Bible/Qur'an.

 

[wil]

..while I, knowingly, base my spirituality on a strong belief in G-d, as in the Bible/Qur'an.

Tis what is called a believer...

 

[Longfellow]

I have been accused and just might be wimpy spiritually....definitely religiously wimpy.

What is it about what you do or don't do, that someone is calling wimpy?

 

[wil]

The fact that I follow more the Jeffersonian Bible ...that Unity and a blend of most religions appeals to me.

 

[Thomas]

Nick Cave defines religion as "spirituality with rigour".

He prefers the specific demands and traditions of religion over the vague, amorphous nature of modern "spirituality," finding that the church provides a lasting structure that embraces both his belief and his doubt.

He locates himself in the "Muddy Middle Ground", the space between belief and doubt.

For him (and I think Wil would agree) the church creates a space that can contain his skepticism while allowing him to participate in the energy and movement of faith. Of the churches, his preference is for the Anglican.

 

[wil]

What is it about what you do or don't do, that someone is calling wimpy?

I think Thomas may have hit on it.

Nick Cave defines religion as "spirituality with rigour".

I think that is it...or not it for me.
My spirituality doesn't lean toward religions but science. Science changes with new information and the old notions are discounted...religions get new information that discounts the old and foments apologetics...find a reason to maintain that which is unlovable or proven wrong.

For him (and I think Wil would agree) the church creates a space that can contain his skepticism while allowing him to participate in the energy and movement of faith

the portion of "church" I like is the camaraderie... and I like to discuss things with thinkers...me thinks this has pretty much became my church.