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Welcome! I'm not really here much anymore, but sometimes I pop back in! As a non-religious person... ...yeah I can relate. A lot of the text really triggers me, and I have to sort of let go of what the words mean to me and ask more knowledgeable people what is implied in the texts. I was still...

The OP just came across it and thought it interesting, is still processing it, noticed that the concept was at once contrary to Thomas views while still using a scholarly language that Thomas uses. So I just wanted to run it by him, just for fun! Still, all discussion is very welcome, I still...

@Thomas I came across this concept [wiki] and was curious about your take on the concept, specifically in the context of religion. Have you read anything from these books? The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism by Max Weber, 1904-05 The Sacred Emergence of Nature by Ursula Goodenough...

You think he will? And how long before Steve need to evict him again? I mean, I don't really mind the prophets if they just stick to their own thread. I'm also fascinated how they always expect everyone to just take their word for it. I mean...how...if...but...I just don't get it....

Here you go! https://www.interfaith.org/community/threads/7047/

Nod to @Thomas and @RJM Corbet, I think he got some sense!

Thought I was only going to 'like' it, but it was so well thought out! Very cool!

And you also say that you have some sort of statistics on that the Church is more prone to pedophilia than other organizations. That is a serious accusation.

its not my organisation. I want this discussion to be based on things we know, not things "everyone knows". I have no idea what the data looks like in other organisations around children. Paedophiles look to be close to children, and all organisations are really bad at dealing with large-scale...

I'll remember this one for my next paper, thanks!

Sources please.

In my eyes celibacy doesn't lead in any way to sexual deviation.

So whether they are a master or not irrelevant?

I liked this!

Though you were talking about human consciousness.

Unless God created complexity with the intent of consciousness arising from it? I don't like either/or options, I like smashing things together.

Did she do the thing with her arms?

I know you US peeps are a bit fickle around sex so Steve might want to delete? Until then, listen as much as possible.

I watched The Name of the Rose the other day, speaking of different orders.

it never happens to me, and when it does its permanent. if I were you I would make an alt. account, just as a backup. Good way to test if issues are account bound or not.