A question for the Catholic delegation (please move if inappropriate)

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I was invited to a Catholic funeral (a neighbor passed away last Sunday, and her funeral is Saturday) and I want to be properly presentable. The problem is that I don't have the foggiest idea what is appropriate for a Catholic funeral that isn't a military funeral as well.

To make matters more confusing for me is that it's going to be held at one of the local cathedral, and I have no idea since I was raised Jewish. The only rule that I pretty much know is that my clothes have to be intact and not something that 'screams' "streetwalker".

If you can give me pointers, I will be grateful. :kitty:s are standing by with their accouterments.

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The problem is that I don't have the foggiest idea what is appropriate for a Catholic funeral that isn't a military funeral as well.
I'd say Catholic funerals probably reflect conservative cultural manners. The failsafe is to wear black, although if you were military, dress uniform would be acceptable.

Then again, there's also the family wishes. I've been to funerals where the request was to wear something celebratory, rather than mournful, 'we're here to celebrate the life of' kind of of thing ... but even then, I'd not go so far as to dust down my Mardi Gras outfit! Here it would be OK to ask if there's a dress code.

To make matters more confusing for me is that it's going to be held at one of the local cathedral, and I have no idea since I was raised Jewish. The only rule that I pretty much know is that my clothes have to be intact and not something that 'screams' "streetwalker".
That's about it, although I have also been to funerals where the black dress worn was something purchased for the office party. It's not a feckin fashion parade ... really it depends on how conservative/uptight the family is. The converse is I've known family members smile at a woman dressed in a stunning and seductive black outfit, from veil to high heels, and they all nodded approvingly — "He'll be smiling now," — not very PC, but it all rather depends on the family, I think.

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If it's at a cathedral, I'd assume it's going to be a grand affair.

If the body is not already at the cathedral, we wait outside until the deceased arrives. He's met by the priest, there's a sprinkling of Holy Water and reception prayers, then the coffin is conveyed to the aisle before the altar. The congregation file in afterwards.

There will probably be a Requiem Mass, much like the mass, but the readings will be related to the occasion, and usually by the family. Have some tissues handy. The priest might say a few words about the deceased, which I find dreadfully embarrassing when it's evident that he never knew the person. On the other hand, when my agnostic uncle died, the parish priest spoke highly of him, a man he knew and saw regularly, sitting at the back of the church while his wife was at Mass. He insisted that there would be rules bent on this occasion! He kept the balance of solemn/upbeat just right.

If there is a mass, then there'll be standing ups and kneeling downs and sittings in between, with prayings and maybe even singings ... hopefully there'll be an Order of Service with directions.

If there's communion probably best not to receive ... a lot of Catlicks get touchy about that bit.

After the Requiem Mass there's the committal. The coffin is taken to the cemetery and, OMG, THEY'RE STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN! Actually just a few short prayers, sprinkling of Holy Water, coffin is lowered, handfuls of earth/flowers are dropped ... that's it.

Then the reception.
 
Thank you, Thomas. You've been very helpful (moreso than my neighbors.)

The :kitty:s are in the mail (with accouterments.) None resemble the current POTUS. :)

Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
 
Another question came up in my (frequently confused) mind about the deceased during the funeral: what is a secular Franciscan? At least one of her brothers is also a secular Franciscan, possibly more.

They read/"discussed" the "miracle of the bread and fishes", mentioning an alternative explanation to it, plus read Isaiah 25: 6a, 7-9, Romans 14: 7-9 and 10c-12 along with Matthew 14: 13-21 (if you're interested.)

The only major downside was someone came in and started panhandling during the service (can you :rolleyes:? I knew you could!)

Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine
 
what is a secular Franciscan?
Secular orders (Benedictine, Franciscan, Dominican, Jesuit) also known as 'Third Order (whatevers)' are open to men and women who live in the world (rather than an enclosed community) but wish to live their lives in the spirituality and spiritual methodology that characterises the particular order.

The First Order are the monastic houses, Second Orders are nuns. In the case of the Franciscans, they're called 'Poor Clares' after their founder, St Clare, who was a follower of the Way of Poverty of St Francis.

What promises the secular orders make depends on the parent order. People usually ask about chastity, and I don't know, but as a rule of thumb the church promotes chastity wherever and whenever it can, so probably yes, but I might be wrong.

Someone once asked me the difference between the Orders. I said if they went to the Benedictines, they's be put up in splendid accommodation; if they went to the Franciscans, they's be put to work in the field; the Dominicans would lecture to them, and the Jesuits would put them on the rack :D. A tad unfair ...

In their beginnings, the Franciscans and the Dominicans were widely regarded as the 'wacky cults' of their day. The Order of St Benedict was old and established, these two were upstarts, and rejected the material wealth of the church and the clerical life among the higher orders. Trying to start a religious order is always problematical, because your bishop will see it as an attempt to circumvent his authority, or if you don't, he'll trya and make your vision match his vision of what your vision should be ...

When St Thomas (Aquinas) told his parents he wanted to be a Dominican they were horrified. His dad hired the most expensive hooker he could get for his money to dissuade his son, but Thomas chased her out of the house (according to the popular story).

They read/"discussed" the "miracle of the bread and fishes", mentioning an alternative explanation to it, plus read Isaiah 25: 6a, 7-9, Romans 14: 7-9 and 10c-12 along with Matthew 14: 13-21 (if you're interested.)
Always interested ...
 
I watched The Name of the Rose the other day, speaking of different orders.
 
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