Genuine Question To Theists Part 2 :)

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  1. enlightenment

    enlightenment New Member

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    Lol, that is quite a claim!:)
     
  2. Saltmeister

    Saltmeister The Dangerous Dinner

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    It's more of an observation from an outsider, I know very little about the problems that Judaism may or may not have. It was a very superficial observation. I have heard it before from what seemed like an insider's perspective that no, it's not a specially easy road in terms of what to think and what not to think (or say and do), but nonetheless these would be its strengths.

    Christianity and Islam have a number of reasonably serious problems that put Judaism in front, particularly the issue with Fundies. I've heard stories about what it's like in America, the Bible Belt and Christian Right lobbyists. With Islam, I guess it's the Wahhabis.

    I suppose there was a time when I would have agreed with these people, but now I think they're nuts, especially considering what I've learnt about all three of the Abrahamic faiths in the last three or so years -- or perhaps I should say, the tremendous amount of thinking and reflection I've done. It's not knowledge, but understanding that I've acquired in the last three years. Yes I do know more, but I also understand more, even though I haven't acquired much more knowledge. I understand more now than I know.

    One thing that seems to plague Christianity and Islam is the obsession with objectivity. I've shaken off my attachment to a notion of objectivity, but I can't say it's true of the majority of other Christians. I see Christianity differently now because I no longer feel the need to think of Christianity as objective. I no longer have to believe in an infallible text as others do. I have found reasons to now have to think such things anymore. Christianity can be just as meaningful even if its text wasn't infallible. The religion itself didn't need an infallible text.

    A religion is a religion. It doesn't need a book. When you understand what it all means, it's written in your heart. Books are for people who don't already know or understand. It is no longer a matter of reading, quoting and chanting slogans, but a matter of thinking, rationalising and using one's mind.

    The reason for saying what I said was that it seemed from what I have observed from Jews here and elsewhere is that it didn't bother them so much to not have a grip on objectivity, that they were content on not possessing objectivity in their beliefs. In doing so, they became realists. If you renounce objectivity because you realise it's so hard or impossible, you're being a realist. You are acknowledging reality.

    I realised that such an attitude was correct. This quest for objectivity, for perfect, unassailable doctrines and dogma in many religions, particularly in Christianity and Islam, was a pointless pursuit. The quest for objectivity assumed that there was an answer to all of the world's and of life's problems. But the reality is that there is none. There is no magic, silver bullet and no shoe that fits all sizes.

    Judaism seemed to already understand this. Christianity and Islam have yet to realise this. This is why I say that Christianity and Islam are behind. They have yet to reach this "golden understanding." When they do, their eyes will be opened.:)

    Because Judaism is in front, Judaism could well take the lead in bringing all the Abrahamic faiths under one collective through the Noahide movement if that is the wish of the Abrahamic God.
     
  3. Nick_A

    Nick_A Interfaith Forums

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    Thank goodness I know that there are Jews that don't feel this way.
     

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