Discussion in 'Buddhism' started by The Undecided, Dec 23, 2009.
This would help us understand our present life better, and we would be better people as a result.
I think the things we 'learned' in our past lives are now part of our psyche, the things we thought we 'learned' but didn't engrain in ourcellves we still need more work on hence presented with new opportunities to learn.
I think the memories of old relationships...this time you are my mom, but last time you were my brother or this time you are my husband but last time you were my mother these would just confuse the issue of dealing with the task at hand.
I can visualize the discussion though in the betwixt and between waiting for the next incarnation experience.... "Yeah you were a mean older brother...you think that was fair, I'm gonna be your drill sargent this time around..."
For most people, remembering their past lives would be a disaster. Forgetting allows us a "clean slate" to start all over again, and try to "get it right" this time.
Rest assured, the day will come when everyone will remember their past lives -- when we are ready for it.
I think there's a very good reason why we can't remember our past lives.
Because memory is tied to our brain. When we die, we lose our physical body and therefore the mechanism through which memories are made and held.
But we all started over with a totally clean slate, that would imply that nothing we do in this life matters.
To bridge this conundrum, I propose that what transfers from one life to the next is a form of momentum or direction.
So what we do in each life sets the stage for the next, but does not determine what happens. It is up to us, and our thoughts and actions in our current life, to maintain, accelerate or change that direction.
That is an interesting theory, but how does it explain people who have past-life memories?
Active imaginations? Honest mistakes?
People believe a lot of strange things.
I take it you do not believe people can remember past lives. I guess we just have to agree to disagree on this one.
People believe they've seen Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster and been abducted by aliens.
Do you believe things just because other people do?
I find most people to be quite easily fooled and gullible. I also find that people thirst for magic. I think "remembering" past lives falls under this general category... wishful thinking.
BTW, you're a very reasonable voice in this forum nick, I did not intend that last post to paint you negatively.
Upon reading back your previous post I see that you were just putting forth a personal belief and not basing it upon anybody else's experience.
I think you are on to something here CZ.
Really, we have no more than the sketchiest of clues on this issue, but I agree with this speculation.
How do you justify that? I rise like the pheonix after this life. How would I be a better person? Also how many people are there really? Surley everyone has been in previous lives before hand right? We're not all "better people".
zen: there have been over 11,000,000 witnesses to UFO sightings/abductions. In one of those fancy court things.... 11,000,000 witnesses? The out come would be clear lol. Mass hysteria? That many?
"I find most people to be quite easily fooled and gullible. I also find that people thirst for magic. I think "remembering" past lives falls under this general category... wishful thinking."
That part seems strange coming from a buddhist? :/ I thought you were all about this kinda stuff?
Contemplation: what is this our of which you write?
This is navel gazing at its finest
CZ, you said,
"I did not intend that last post to paint you negatively."
--> Thank you for your concern. Please do not worry about it.
Perhaps there are no past lives. There's one answer!
Let's face it, if anyone has had a past life, they have seen and experienced things that probably pushed them to the brink of sanity. War, murder, rape, famine, genocide, oppression and brutality are constant factors in human history.
Would anyone really be able to cope with a realm of past experiences around these subjects?
It makes more sense to start afresh, where each experience is anew, and appraised as new - rather than drag through existence a huge amount of emotional baggage that could be difficult to cope with under any ordinary curcumstances.
Heck, anyone who does get inklings of past lives can find that challenging enough - the experiences of a seemingly different person and identity - let alone the trials they may have endured!
I would like to add one more idea to what you are saying. Many of us have had romantic relatoinships where we have totally messed the whole thing up, and wish we could go back, do it all over again, and get it right. Reincarnation and forgetting between reincarnations allow us to do this very thing. Practice makes perfect, especially when mistakes from the past are forgotten, allowing us to try a marriage with someone again, and get it better this lifetime.
Reminds me of the saying...
Eat [crap] a billion flies can't be wrong.
Yes but in that pile of lint is a whole universe, with its own milky way...if you can't contemplate your navel, you are just missing out.
I guess you are right
*stares into navel*
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