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Good points on the endless loop of the why.
So.........
What is the point of our existence?
 

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What is the point of our existence?


My point of existing, so far, has been to study existence,
within the constraints of existence,
thereby realizing how I don't really exist at all.

That is the philosophical answer...

But there is more to life, than philosophy (or physics).
 

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Good points on the endless loop of the why.
So.........
What is the point of our existence?
None, that is why there are so many religions offering all kinds of salvation.
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interesting responses so far.........keep them coming.
The point was to see what a wide cross section of people think.
So far business is slow.
 

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Thing is, I spent many years within a religious faith.
Having spent many more years looking at all the religions that this world has to offer,
I can say that while I respect aspects of them all, none are complete in themselves.

I'm going to disagree with you here shawn. I can experience the ocean by wading into the waves at my local beach. I don't have to be on EVERY shore to know experience the ocean.

Each religion is complete in itself if a person applies its practices and experiences enlightenment.

And as a postscript, I agree that there is no point to our existence. It just is.
 

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Thing is, I spent many years within a religious faith.
Having spent many more years looking at all the religions that this world has to offer,
I can say that while I respect aspects of them all, none are complete in themselves.
Personally, I subscribed to Buddhist philosophy as I find that it is pretty coherent and internally consistent.

I also find the Buddhist view of reality, especially that of Dzogchen, to be pretty coherent and consistent, but it took me a rather long time to have a reasonably good (intellectual) understanding of it.

A big factor was that in Buddhism, there is no need to posit an almighty creator.
 

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A big factor was that in Buddhism, there is no need to posit an almighty creator.

Just a formless field of benefaction.

It may not be a man with a beard living in the clouds... but aren't we talking about the same thing?
 

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I can experience the ocean by wading into the waves at my local beach. I don't have to be on EVERY shore to know experience the ocean.

Oh, but so many different experiences of it! Every beach has it's different moods and expressions according to the time and the season, and there are so many different types of beach - and oceans!
 

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Oh, but so many different experiences of it! Every beach has it's different moods and expressions according to the time and the season, and there are so many different types of beach - and oceans!

Not to mention the individuals who experience it . . .
 

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----I can experience the ocean by wading into the waves at my local beach.

---- I agree there is no point to our existence. It just is.


un·grate·ful

–adjective

1.unappreciative; not displaying gratitude; not giving due return or recompense for benefits conferred.

2.The basic disposition of every human, ever.

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A little more interesting.
I wonder who else is going to wade into our little beach.;)
I am just interested in seeing the variations of peoples conceptions.
Not in discussing the merits of or arguing about the different points of view.
Some of us will have similar ideas about this question and some will be quite different......
.....but who cares, really......it is all opinion anyway.
As long as it gets you through the night.
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I'm going to disagree with you here shawn. I can experience the ocean by wading into the waves at my local beach. I don't have to be on EVERY shore to know experience the ocean.

Each religion is complete in itself if a person applies its practices and experiences enlightenment.

And as a postscript, I agree that there is no point to our existence. It just is.
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un·grate·ful

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1.unappreciative; not displaying gratitude; not giving due return or recompense for benefits conferred.

2.The basic disposition of every human, ever.

;-)

Awww. Gee, whiz.

You don't think that gratitude can be expressed even though no point exists?

What's the point of a sunny day? Yet I'm thankful for the warmth and light.

What is the point of a stormy one? Yet I like those best of all.
 

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Oh, but so many different experiences of it! Every beach has it's different moods and expressions according to the time and the season, and there are so many different types of beach - and oceans!

I totally agree. The only problem would arise if you were to think that your shore was the true shore, your waves were the true waves, God blessed your little local beach and everybody else swam in a false one.
 

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I wonder who else is going to wade into our little beach.;)
I am just interested in seeing the variations of peoples conceptions.
Not in discussing the merits of or arguing about the different points of view.
Some of us will have similar ideas about this question and some will be quite different......
.....but who cares, really......it is all opinion anyway.
As long as it gets you through the night.

Several pages back, I wanted to try to answer the question, but gave up. I started to wonder what the point was of even trying to answer. Here is what I proposed posting.

Why do we exist? (For what purpose Are we here?)
Saltmeister said:
Well, I didn't authorise my own existence. My parents did.

I didn't plan my birth and nor did I plan the circumstances in which I found myself. I never received an instruction manual on how to live. So . . . I have had to improvise.

I have made up my own purpose and mission.

As you can see, I don't have much to say about this except to say that I don't have much to say about this. I am not sure how to answer the question except to say that I am not sure how to answer the question.
 

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Several pages back, I wanted to try to answer the question, but gave up. I started to wonder what the point was of even trying to answer. Here is what I proposed posting.




As you can see, I don't have much to say about this except to say that I don't have much to say about this. I am not sure how to answer the question except to say that I am not sure how to answer the question.
The point of the question is not so much to find an answer as it seems to be highly subjective and unanswerable, but the point is to get the mind thinking in this area as it is typical to just leave it way on the mental backburner and just go with the flow of prevailing wind.
It is like a koan in that just by thinking on it one will find new things.
 
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