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Greetings! My first reaction is to question whether you are here to discuss or to lecture?Where is God’s True Church to Day?
Pending the answer to that question, I would say G-d's True Church is precisely where He intends for it to be.
Thousands of different church denominations claim to be following Jesus Christ. Yet they teach thousands of different “gospels” and disagree on countless points of doctrine. Is Jesus Christ the Head of all these denominations? Is Christ divided? Or is there a true Church of God that stands apart from this religious Babylon? How can you recognize God’s true Church?
Perhaps it is well to get the persecution complex out of the way right off the bat...
By levelling the charge that other denominations are not following G-d and therefore are false, you are the one doing the persecuting. This is important to be seen for what it is at the very outset, so that when someone levels a challenge in your direction, you cannot lay claim to "I'm/we're being persecuted by those false denominationals (or whatever epithet is popular at the moment)." You cannot be the victim if you are the one doing the persecuting...which indeed, you are. You have already pre-judged, pre-tried and pre-convicted anyone who disagrees with you, no?
Define "truth?"Is there a true church in the world today? And if so, how can it be identified?
Of all the religious questions facing the modern truth-seeker, this is certainly the most demanding and also the most frustrating. Conflicting voices from every quarter declare that they have the answer.
In my experience, truth seldom corresponds to reality.
What I see here is no different.Denominations, sects, and cults make strident claims based upon emotional interpretations of isolated Bible texts.
To be certain I understand what you are saying...churches are made of fallible people, yet because they are fallible they cannot be trusted as "true," except of course for your church which is made of similar fallible people, yet against the trend conveniently happens to be the true church? I am confused...and jaded...by the same repetitive hyperbole shouted from so many different soapboxes over the years I've lost count.It is very important to recognize that no church can be proven superior because its members are without sin. People are people, and all are subject to the same frailties of human nature. Yet, it is also true that every Christian has access to the same mighty power of God for overcoming those frailties. Therefore, any church today will necessarily be made up of individuals who are at varying levels of personal sanctification. The wheat and tares will still be mingled together, and no church will be made up entirely of perfect people.
Absolutely! They were known as the Ebionites. To clarify, these were the remnant of the church led by James the brother of our Lord Jesus.But the question remains: Is there some valid way to identify the church which is closest to the biblical standards of truth?
From that time on the church has been divided with multiple interpretations, not least exemplified by the Council of Nicea in 325 AD. So schisms have been with Christianity almost from the beginning.
Clear? To whom? Forgive me but, competing claims of veracity merely dull the senses...apparently...to all.It must be apparent to all that if God has a special church in the world today, He will reveal it clearly and explicitly in His holy Word. The information must be couched in language that will appeal to human logic and should consist of more than just vague generalities or insinuations.
Your reluctance doesn't sound very reluctant to me.I am reluctant to make any claims for what you are about to read, although I know very well that it could revolutionize your life. Do not scan or read lightly the material which follows. I ask only that you study it prayerfully and with an open mind. Then judge it on the basis of the Scriptures and your own spiritual convictions. If it is truth, the Holy Spirit will guide you into joyful recognition of it. My personal feeling is that you will find this experience to be the most exciting adventure you have ever had in God’s Word.
Oh, history! Yes please! But for that we must include not only the life, time and place of Jesus, but continue in that region and on over into the power politics of Rome circa 325 AD, and then view the scriptures through that lens to approach anything that remotely coincides with reality...let alone "truth."Our quest for truth will focus upon the twelfth chapter of Revelation. Limited time and space does not allow for an exhaustive study, but two principles will be given priority—accuracy and simplicity. Over twelve hundred years of history must be dealt with only briefly as we follow the absorbing story of the true church to its surprising climax.
That is...unless one wishes to remain within one of the "(d)enominations, sects, and cults (that) make strident claims based upon emotional interpretations of isolated Bible texts."
No doubt you will consider my response as persecution...hardly. Just stating factual truth.