Challenge to Pauline Comspiracy by Excaliburton

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  1. Victor

    Victor Silver Haired Member

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    Would you believe that after 13 years I just stumbled across this tidbit?
    Excaliburton started the thread with; A. Victor Garaffa had written the Pauline Conspiracy that is posted among the articles on this web site. And he had challenged anybody to refute his thesis that Paul was a false apostle.

    This was the statement with the challenge:
    Read a bit more carefully you all would have noticed that I challenged no one, Brian did! Second, what you have of the origional thesis is totally incomplete. Since it first appeared on the internet I have added 90 pages from the Greek manuscripts of Acts and Paul's Letters. There are countless editions, additions, and general information that totally changed the complexion of the Thesis. Thanks guys, as I consider your comments as flattering and a tribute to the work itself, but you don't have the completed text!
    Victor G
     
  2. iBrian

    iBrian Peace, Love and Unity Staff Member

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    Yep, I thought your arguments were so interesting I expected to see a rebuttal somewhere - but so far I haven't seen one. :)
     
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    Thank you Steve, thought I'd swing by for a visit and review some of the old threads.
     
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    Thomas Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Sadly Mr Garaffa has passed ...
     
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    I am very sorry to hear this. He will be missed. I very much enjoyed our conversations.
     
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    bump
     
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    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Thanks @juantoo3 ;)
     
  10. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    Who would have thought it?
    ..that Victor was a Catholic. :)

    I suppose it means that he was from a Catholic family, and had an interest in theology.
     
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    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    You seem to think that is significant?
    But that this is not:

     
  13. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    Well, I find it interesting that Catholic Christians here strongly condemn his views as anti-Catholic.
    It is a bit of a contradiction, isn't it, that he is a Catholic?
    I would have thought that he doubts the Catholic creed, and became a non-trinitarian.
     
  14. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    Does that make his writing any better, or his unsupported conjecture any more scholarly, or his selective use of material any less disingenuous? Does it make updating his work in light of new knowledge less necessary? Also you ignored the rest of my post, again.

     
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  15. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    I'm not commenting on that .. I was commenting on the contradiction between his published views and "being a Catholic".

    Yes, I ignored it purposely .. it is from another thread.
    I am quite willing to discuss it there.
     
  16. RJM Corbet

    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    But so what? He can believe what he likes and call himself whatever he likes? It's completely up to him. No one is disputing his work as an opinion piece; everybody's entitled to his own opinion.

    The difficulty arises when an opinion piece masquerades and is published as fact. and that is back to the same old roundabout and the same all whirlpool, and sorry brother I've got better things to do.
     
  17. muhammad_isa

    muhammad_isa Save Our Souls

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    Did he call himself a Catholic?
    I'm not sure that he did. He had a Catholic burial, but that is not really the same thing as believing in Catholicism.
    He certainly identified himself as a Christian.

    I just found it interesting, that's all :)
     
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    RJM Corbet God Feeds the Ravens

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    I apologise if I misunderstood, Muhammad
     

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